The other day I was ambling around the local Maplin when I spotted something that I’d been considering getting for a little while – a NAS kit. For those not in the know, a NAS kit is an external hard drive that attaches to your network and acts as a standalone shared drive. Previously I had set up a shared directory on my PC, and provided my gf fiance with a script that powered up my PC and mapped the shared drive. A NAS kit would make much more sense, as it would be always powered, and wouldn’t interfere with my PC if I was gaming. But they’re always so expensive or have some down-side. Often they require drivers to work, which defeats the object in my opinion – you should just be able to map the drive and away you go.
So when I saw the “LanDisk” in Maplin for just 35 quid I thought it was a bargain. And I thought there must be something wrong with it. I’m generally fairly wary of buying unbranded hardware, but figured I could always take it back if it turned out to be “a bit shoddy”. The main problem of unbranded hardware is finding information about it – there’s nothing to give an indication of the make/model of the box, which is partly why I’m writing this now… to save people a little searching.
The box ID’d on the Maplin site as “A61FY” is actually an NS-347 manufactured by A-Tec Subsystem Inc. On the side of the rather nice brushed-metal box is the text “Mobile Landisk – External Net Storage”, which may help you to identify it. The manufacturer’s site is fairly pap when it comes to updates and support so it’s just as well that Maplin provide an updated firmware. This is actually build 45 of the firmware, the latest that I could find on the ‘net (my box came pre-installed with build 44), so it’s recommended that you install the update – it’s fairly quick to do.
Searching the ‘net for information on the kit gives a mixed set of results when it comes to opinions. It seems to be a 50/50 split between people who think it’s wonderful and people who’ve had to return it.
For me getting it working was a little bit trial-and-error. Getting a drive into the box was initially tricky as the power cable pressed against the PCB inside. I had to make do with using just two screws to secure the drive, tho’ it’s a snug fit so is unlikely to move around too much. For the moment the box contains just a 60Gb drive that I had recently removed from my PC. I tend to buy decent-quality drives, so the noise-level is fairly low tho’ it’s noticeable when the drive spins up – but then I am sitting right next to it. Sleep-time for the drive is adjustable via the standard web-interface, which is nice.
Access speed is fine for what I need it for – some people have reported slow write speed but I’ve not noticed anything too bad. I copied a directory of photos in less than a minute, which is in line with a measured speed of around 4Mb/s, but it may well depend on your choice of drive. The kit works using a 10/100 network interface, so network speed shouldn’t be a cause of any slowdown. If you need to you can also connect the drive to a PC via USB, but I would consider that a backup in case of network failure.
The web-interface works OK for the most part. I had some problems saving a new “name” for the kit (the default is “storage-xxxx”, the last 4 digits being part of the device’s MAC address – this is the… oh never mind). That said providing you don’t have any conflicts with the network name “storage”, which is also allowed, you should be fine. On problem I found with the web-interface was that, following altering some settings (name, time settings, etc) my browser could often not reconnect to the device. This invariably meant cycling the power, at which point the chance of the settings staying set were hit-and-miss. In theory tho’ these are settings that you would only need to alter once.
One of the main failings of the kit tho’ is the use of LEDs to show when the drive is powered and in use. The “in-use” indicator is a bright blue and defaults to being ON (it flashes OFF with disk accesses). When I say bright, I mean bright. In the middle of the night it looks like someone has left the TV on, with an eerie glow emanating from the desk. I guess you could put it in a child’s room to act as a night-light.
So in general it’s a fine bit of kit. It’s certainly worth £35, tho’ I’m not sure I’d be willing to pay the usual price of £60 for it. For that money I’d like something a little more… recognisable. And a little less bright.
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Hey cool, saw those for couple weeks now. Not much liking the Netgear SC101 I got, though it’s not a proper NAS (DHCP only etc, takes up 10 IP addresses, and silly software to run!). For £35 think i might try one of these. Thank you.
First one I got worked for about 30 seconds… just enough time to get an IP from the DHCP, Then nothing…..
Took it back to Maplin, changed it, and the new one works just fine. Transfer rate is about 50% of what I get between other devies but.. what do you expect for the price. Will have to do something about that BRIGHT blue LED!
Bought one, haven’t tried it yet, but wondered where you found firmware other thatn Maplin’s? Also, I wanted to use it withan NTFS formatted HD – doe’s the new firmware support this in ‘LAN’ mode?
Yeah, it’s a hit-and-miss device I think, which is a problem I often find with “unbranded” kit. I also looked at the SC101 from Netgear – looks nice, but I don’t like that you have to install software to use it. This one uses Samba shares and FTP (a nice feature, meaning you can access it from the internet if you want – not sure about security tho’).
The new firmware doesn’t support NTFS and I doubt it ever will – FAT32 is a fairly well-supported standard, NTFS isn’t… they’re just going for ease of implementation I think. It’s easier to mount a FAT32 drive on any system (even a ZX Spectrum ;p).
As for other firmware on the net, I just found a few through forums and things, but none newer than build45.
One thing you may have trouble with tho’ is if you want to format the drive in your PC. Win2k and XP won’t allow you to format a FAT32 driver > 32Gb. I found a handy tool which will do it for you.
As for that LED – I currently have a small towel over the box. Hey, it’s a simple hardware fix *cough*.
Thanks for the very useful information about this device. I found it on the Maplin’s site and was trawling the net for opinions etc about it. Your mention of a “sleep” function is helpful – such as that are not always mentioned in adverts/specs. I have been looking at Smartdisk and Lanserver NAS enclosures and this one is much cheaper at its offer price.
I bought one this week and everything has gone fine so far ( it must be easy to set up, or mine would be scrap by now {:~))
For the moment, I can’t get the thing to connect proper by USB, so I can do a drive copy to reinstall XP ( Don’t fancy doing that over the net connection!)
Pete
I bought this drive I have it connected to my wireless router, and can access the admin pages wirelessly from both of my pc’s but I cant see any files or the drive when I try to view them on my pc’s. I mapped the drive with the usb cable, set the folders to share, but can see nothing. HELP PLEASE
Hi guys – guess either I’m thick or this piece of kit hasn’t read this blog, either way…
My home network can’t see the box. The instructions say it should run in client mode if there’s another DHCP server in the network (there is). I also assume that in client mode it will switch to 192.168.1.x. So, any ideas please? I can’t access it via a browser.
JX: If you have a DHCP server on your network already (as I had), then you’ll need to turn off the DHCP server on the Landisk. I did this by disconnecting my main PC from the network, plugging it into the landisk, and going to 169.254.0.1. Then I turned off the DHCP. Then I put my network cables back as they were and it worked for me. Try setting a static IP on the Landisk, and configure your normal DHCP server to not allocate that one? Just a thought.
Dave: Not sure what the problem could be – I assume the Landisk can see the drive inside? It should tell you if it can’t when you go to the admin pages.
You need to make sure the folders you want shared are listed in the “Sharing List” on the SMB Setup page. If that’s not the problem… try opening up the folder “\\storage” from your PC. On Windows, just do “Run” from the Start menu and type \\storage. It should list your shared folders.
Hope that’s some help, at least.
I bought one and then read your blog. You were spot on with all your comments. A nice toy to play with but don’t expect it to fulfil any serious NAS requirements.
Sussed it missed the 3rd 255 out on the subnet settings, working great now, thanks for the reply.
Thanks for taking the trouble to write this – it’s a real public service. I bought the LanDisk yesterday, unpacked it this morning, and found everything except … the user manual. Following your tip to connect the landisk directly to the pc, I have got as far as the sign-in page. But with no user manual, I don’t know the default admin userid and password. If anyone could post them here, it would save me the trouble of taking the whole lot back to Maplin. Best regards, G.
I to was persuaded by the price and, so far, am extremely happy with the thing. My only gripe is the fact that it simply refuses to function on the USB! It would appear i am not the only one anybody found a fix?
By the by when fitting the HDD into the box i found that with judicious use of a craft knife to remove the ‘wing’ from the power connector allowed a perfect fit without the drive fouling the PCB.
Duh! The admin userid and admin password were not so hard to guess, after all. The drive is working perfectly, and my linux laptop is playing music from it as I type. Thanks again, G.
Nice kit, got it sorted and shared in no time, Made few directories, and mapped , noe accessible via LAN and FT. For the price, its good, but as user above said, for £60 i personally dont think its worth it. The only downside is the FAT32 limitation, but for basic storage ect…. I agree the blue LED is a tad bright . One other point is even though iupdated the firmware, i would of liked to know what the changes were.
Just bought this device myself…setup is easy but having an issue, i can list the shares on a xp machine and it works fine with this, as soon as i try with VISTA nothing vista crashes?
Anyone having same problem…its going back if it cant work with vista?
Been playing with this for a few days, very useful info – to the non-working via USB guy make sure the jumper is set to Master – this had me foxed for a while.
Trying to connect mine to LAN at one end and Kazuki DVD player at the other – work in progress but should work in theory.
really useful stuff, thanks to all.
I’m on my second LANDisk, this could be more down to “driver error” than the enclosure itself. Both enclosures have gone South when I’ve been trying to set up FTP access (I’m new to setting up FTP, so could be me… followed instructions, but they ain’t great). This ends up with me not being able to access the enclosure through a web browser (so I’m gonna try icabod’s solution for JX above).
Slightly more worrying is my first LANDisk crashed out and took a 500GB HDD with it- I was trying to set up FTP password and it just stopped communicating with the network (lights on but not found in browser), returned my enclosure to Maplin who exchanged, but my 500GB HDD cannot be accessed (tried direct in pc, etc. Run a utility on it which seems to think it is password protected- maybe on the controller?- but it was ok b4??) so I’ve lost a 500GB HDD as well (any suggestions would be appreciated!!)
Anyone like to do an idiot’s guide to setting it up for FTP? (I’m using mine through a D-LINK DI-604 router)
thanks again for the info, good to see this support from the community!!
Gazz: hmm, you shouldn’t lose your HDD from using this device… if anything you should be able to access the drive when plugged directly into your PC (not via the LANDisk). There are a bundle of HDD diagnostic tools on the Ultimate Boot CD, which is a worthwhile download anyway… connect the HDD to your motherboard and try this cd. Just don’t accidentally format the thing :)
As for setting up FTP — I’ve not done that yet. As information regarding firmware is limited I’m not sure how “secure” the ftp will be (it comes up as “NET Disk FTP Server” when you log in).
Michael: I don’t have Vista but there should be no problem mapping to the drive in Vista if it works in XP. All I can suggest is to google for it and see if anyone else has had problems mapping drives. Some people have had problems with Vista beta versions, it seems.
thanks icabod,the Boot CD looks good (useful one for the future methinks). My drive is a Hitachi Deskstar and I’ve already tried their utilities. No danger of formatting- the HDD won’t let me do anything to it (I’ve even tried KILLDISK), maybe coincidence that the drive stopped being accessible at the same time? (it can be seen by the LANDisk but not accessed, and can be seen in BIOS but not DOS or XP)- sorry to hijack your v useful LANdisk thread….
Back to the LANDisk, my second one has same symptoms as first: can’t access through browser now (I was trying to set up FTP, again). I’ve tried connecting it direct to PC via ethernet and get nothing, also tried USB and it doesn’t do anything either (did work on USB as I have had it connected via USB b4)
Looks like another trip to Maplin for a swapout.
I have also been in touch with Maplin tech support to see if they can help.
Think if I get another one I’ll forget about FTP :o(
thanks
Gazz: Still, the LANDisk shouldn’t be able to kill your drive – sorry to hear that your drive is dead, whatever the reason.
One of the things I had to do during initial set-up was to cycle the power (the old IT trick of turning it off then on again). Occasionally if I altered a setting I could no longer connect to the admin panel until I power-cycled. A bit of an annoyance, really.
Icabod: I have heard back from Maplin tech support who have suggested updating the firmware to restore the 2nd landisk (guess the firmware update may sort something with this lost connection issue?) Still no progress with my drive, guess it may be coincidence as it is difficult to understand how the landisk did anything to it.
copy of email recieved from Maplin:
“I have attached a new version of the firmware please unzip and follow the steps below to hopefully solve your problems, If you still experience problems after you have followed the below steps please contact customer services on 0870 429 6000 and arrange for a return for refund/replacement.
1. Ping the drive by going to start then clicking run and typing cmd.exe then hit enter, type ping 169.254.0.1 and hit enter again. If the ping results say something like packets sent 4 received 4 lost 0 please continue if not return the unit to ourselves.
2. Run firmware.bat from the attached files after you have unzipped them , after completed leave for about 30 seconds and power it off
3. Hold reset while its off for about 30 seconds, reset button is found on the PCB inside the enclosure.
4. Turn on and try to log into the drive via explorer, IE, firefox etc, test by changing default work group and password if all is well after changes have been made the drive should be fixed.”
I think the firmware is the same as that avilable on the Maplin website.
More info:
I had returned my 2nd landisk today b4 receiving the above email and exchanged for another.
The exchange (no.3) doesn’t work out of the box (looks like somebody else had already returned it to Maplin as the manual has been written in and packaging inside the box is torn- naughty Maplin putting returns back on the shelf)
Anyway, tried the instructions above but can’t get it to respond to the ping so guess the IP address has been altered and can’t be found?
Back to Maplin again 2mro for no.4
got 3 from maplin at the discounted price…
i was having problems even with the usb connection, copying 4 files 350mb each was crashing and disconnecting everytime, 2 of the files wouldn’t copy over from a usb pen.
Updated the bios and now it seems ok.
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/landisk.htm
used the V46 +Bootloader 0.70, v46 updated first using the landisk tool from same page, rebboted the box then upgraded the bootloader to 0.70 from the web interface. now the web page is in black/white but the vbox seems to behave better :-)
Also, there’s another guy that has modified the firmware http://www.aroundmyroom.com/tag/nas-basic
Gazz: There is a way to reset the board, which will (should) reset the IP address and any other settings… that could be an option if you can’t get it going. I’m at work so can’t check my manual, but I recall there’s a little button inside the box on the PCB. I don’t recall, however, what you need to do to reset it… I think you turn it off, then power it on while depressing the button… but check the manual first lest you end up with another broken kit.
Angelo: Good call on the firmware. I remember seeing the station-drivers page but didn’t spot anything newer than on the Maplin site. I also didn’t spot a new loader at the time. May give them a go if I get a chance (probably not until next weekend now :[).
thanks for the suggestions guys
Icabod: tried the reset, didn’t do anything (have read on a forum somewhere that others have had same prob, thinks it’s in one of these- http://www.whirlpool.net.au/forum-search.cfm?s=312425&r=1979346
Angelo: I think I’ll give that firmware a try (I’m waiting to hear from Maplin tech support to see of they will support any problems encountered during firmware upgrade)
I have one of these and it works fine but each time I attempt to set a static IP address the item freezes up and I cannot gain access to it untill I use the reset button I have tried turning of the dhcp server resetting all the IP addresses on the network but it will not give me any access untill I use the reset button again
any ideas to fix the problem would be helpful
Found my vista problem i think…need an update on the firmware, info below
Some Linux- and Samba-based network storage appliances may not work with Windows Vista, writes Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols over at Linux-Watch.com. The solution is to configure Vista to use NTLM instead of NTLMv2 authentication, or else update the storage appliance to Samba server 3.0.22 or higher.
MORE INFO HERE :(
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3375748431.html
Fixed….had to put some new firmware on device and needed the
following…
Invoke Vista’s secpol.msc utility and setting the “Local Policies >
Security Options > Network Security: LAN Manager” authentication level
to “Send LM & NTLM — use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated.”
FIRMWARE HERE….http://www.station-drivers.com/page/landisk.htm
put the newest on and its running quicker for one and in vista :P
Great stuff…
Not to take away from this great blog, ive put how i got the device working here – http://www.peterleepumas-rlfc.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=1160&sid=fcbea026e9347351ed27b27abdbcbebc#1160
for vista, also referenced this blog if thats ok….
Update: It works nicely while connected simultaneously to the LAN and a Kazuki DVD-7400X DVD player via USB. This allows drag & drop from any of the networked PCs of AVI files, images etc then instant viewing on the DVD player. Only small downside is that the USB takes priority over the LAN connection when the DVD player is turned on, but it switches straight back to LAN when the DVD goes into standby. Not had any issues so far other than the over-bright LED, mind you I’m only using an 80gb drive. Found it performed better having formatted the drive using Windows than using the “Disk Utility”.
Hello
I picked one of these up from Maplin also, pretty pleased with it for the money as well. I have put the latest firmware on it from the station-drivers site which seem to be ok.
It works fine on my internal network however I cant FTP externally in to it? I can FTP no probs internally but not externally.
I use flashFXP for ftp and have tried all the settings, it connects fine (so no router probs) but it wont list the directories, it pauses on this command.
List (L)
Has anyone managed to ftp externally in to their boxes? I am very good on routers and networks so I know I have it all setup fine, I am thinking the BOX or firmware must have an issue as I can connect to other NAS boxes ok using ftp.
Also the SMB shares wont work with X Box media centre either, you can see the folders but no files and it is slow to navigate using XBMC, so there is a compatibility issue somewhere on SMB and FTP.
Anyone?
Thanks is advance
Knoxie
Hello
It appears to be working now, I changed it to port 21 and its okay? transferred files and its working externally fine now.
Just got to get it going with XBMC and I will be one happy bunny.
Cheers
Knoxie
Easiest way to dim the light…
Old black tights (i know you all have some) slide out he draw and cut some to cover the leds…more layers the dimmer it will go…just a dab of glue to hold it on and it works a treat.
Hope our lass dont read this and see ive nicked her tights or hardware modification purposes
Hello
Got it working with X Box media centre now as well, XBMC as the latest version
XBMC-SVN_2007-01-09_rev7554-T3CH-PROPER
Works!
Must have been the guy from around my room as he said he was going to contact a group with a bug list.
So its all fine, transferred 120 GB as well no problems.
Cheers
Knoxie
Knoxie: Odd that changing the port made ftp work. Could it be an ISP thing perhaps? Either way, it’s good that it works. My problem with external ftp is security – without more detailed information about the firmware I’m not sure I’d be happy opening the box up to script-kiddies.
Michael: No worries about the linkage – it’s what the ‘net is all about. As for your suggestion to dim the LED, it won’t work for me as I only ever wear fishnets. Uhm… *cough*, I mean I don’t have any tights.
*cough*
I bought one of these. I put the latest firmware on it, but it keeps vanishing from my network. Also, it has not once connected over USB. Total load of cr*p.
I have had very few problems with this device. I lost comms to it while copying around 5Gb of data (I think it gave up the ghost about 3Gb).
Anyway …I must be blind, I cannot see the SLEEP function in the LAN GUI. Can anybody tell me where it is? My drive is getting hot!
NAS-BASIC46, LOADER 70
Thanks
Chris: tho’ I still only have NAS-BASIC45 (not upgraded it yet) – the sleep function is on the Disk Utility page.
I get mine dying when transfering data too, and it has to be reset, not what you want in the middle of a transfer.
It tries to install as a USB mass storage device but then gives error 45. It never appears in explorer or
the management console.
In SMB mode, I want to set up public (no password) and private areas. Without fail, when I copy to the private area (password protected) in explorer it will fail half way through and is then unreachable until restarted.
In FTP mode it failed on a backup transfer and the disk was left in a state where I could neither update nor delete folders. Of course, with no USB access all you can do then is reformat.
And this is with a known good HDD inside.
I am taking mine back to Maplin.
ChrisK, your disk will not be getting hot because it cannot sleep, it will be getting hot because it is working on a transfer. Thus sending it to sleep would be useless in that situation. The case on mine gets hot when worked hard, and that may be why it dies, ie, the circuit board overheats. That would not explain its inability to comminicate over USB though.
Hi, I’ve just ordered one of these and wondered if anyone is developing a Print Server function?
I’m hopeful that if the chipset is common to other NAS’s then there is a prospect of someone porting the required function across in to this firmware.
Thanks icabod (excellent blog)- I was looking straight passed the SLEEP function …better get down the opticians!
(Haven’t used USB at all, my transfer problem was over ethernet)
Also, the casing gets quite warm when I’m not transferring anything. I guess the whole thing is a heat sync!
Indeed, it’s a metal case, which looks nice, but it will absorb heat, and most modern drives do tend to get quite hot (hence you can get drive-cooling bays to stick them in… also made of metal). I guess one advantage of the design is that it moves some of the heat away from your actual drive – that’s just a theory tho’… ideally there would be a fan inside the box too (also governed by the sleep function).
StewR: Regarding the print server… no idea. I don’t even have a working printer at the moment (cry cry).
Mike: when you lost yours during ftp transfer, have you since been able to access the HDD?
I may have had a similar problem and since the failure I haven’t been able to access the drive at all, can’t even format it- see my comment above Jan 21st
cheers
Gazz
Since my last post I’ve installed and got it up and working without any issues. I bought a Hitachi Deskstar V5DOA42A 250GB and this seems to be working fine, with no apparent overheating problems (yet). I’ve managed to copy around 5GB of files, at a rate of 22Mb/sec. My firmware and bootloader seems rather out of date (NAS-BASIC32, LOADER 066), however I haven’t needed to upgrade the firmware.
May be interested to know http://www.span.com have these in stock for £38+VAT (search for NS347). If you order a drive at the same time they also include a free fitting service. I didn’t take up that option, but it’s there for those afraid of a screwdriver!
If you do order from Span, make sure to check they provide a UK power adapter. Mine came with the 2-pin Euro power plug, a slight inconvenience.
I noticed my OEM Deskstar arrived factory jumpered to Slave mode. This doesn’t appear to be causing any issues, so I’ll leave it as it is unless anyone can convince me otherwise. This also suggests ATA-133 drives are compatible with the NS-347.
Hi everyone.
I have purchased such device as well. It mostly fits my needs, though there is a problem with sleep function: after the dive gets to the sleep mode it impossible to wake it up without reboot. Does any one know if it is possible to wake the drive by accessing it via SMB or FTP? I tried several firmwares including NAS-BASIC45, LOADER 69 and the recent NAS-BASIC46, LOADER 70.
P.S. The device is used with a HDD: SEAGATE ST3250620A (16Mb cache, 250GB 7200rpm).
Lega: It’s odd that it needs a reboot to wake the drive. With my system the drive wakes up when I try to access the shared directories (over SMB) and when I just go to the admin page in a browser (not tried ftp). It takes a couple seconds for the drive to spin up, but it works.
I purchased mine from a pc wholesaler august 2006. unit worked fine until early december, when I was suddenly unable to access the drive. tried USB and LAN, neither worked. DHCP also did not report the IP being renewed… decided it is faulty and had it swopped out. New drive works fine… except…. When ever power iss off for longer than about 1 hour, the NAS starts up, but the shares are all gone! Under usb connection, all the folders for the shares are visible and accessable. Only solution I have found is to copy NAS via USB to PC, reformat and copy everything back!!! We are experiencing some power issues in the area I live at present, so frequent power outages means I often get home after work and can’t access my music! what a P.I.T.A!!! I will try the new firmware/bootloader see if it fixes anything for me….
Well, I finally got ’round to trying out the newer firmware… it fails with “Kernel Size is too large”. Anyone else get that problem?
On the plus side, it’s not wrecked the box.
Incidentally, I was using the firmware update tools found on the station-drivers page. Trying to update via the web interface just fails with “no response”.
I have purchased this device as well.
I am using the firmware as delivered: NAS-BASIC46, LOADER 70, and a Seagate HDD.
I haven’t encountered problems such as the sleep issue mentioned by some above; it wakes fine when accessed by FTP.
I’ve haven’t investigated too much with SMB yet (other than to notice I have problems getting access from my WinXP PC, but none from a Palm PDA, so that may be a S/W FW issue on the WinXP box).
One thing I have noticed: time drifts a lot. I have it synced to a LAN NTP source (Linux box) but in a 12 hour period the NAS LAN HDD can drift 3hr forwards which is a pretty poor show, and makes synchonisation of files from multiple other devices a bit of an issue! Has anyone else noticed this?
Had all sorts of problems reflashing, mainly with getting the Bootloader updated. The only way I could do it was to upgrade to bootloader v69 first with ROM v45, then load v46 and update the bootloader again to v70.
I used the MT utility from http://www.aroundmyroom.com/tag/nas-basic but initially didn’t set the MAC address correctly. Once I’d overcome that hurdle the bootloader upgrade was successful. Tip: make sure you record the NAS MAC address *before* doing attempting any reflashing otherwise the MT utility may write a default value (or so it appeared).
My previous experience of reflashing Xda bootloaders certainly helped, as persistent usually pays off in the end!
One last point, after reading Martin M’s blog entry I changed my drive from Slave to Master – this is necessary for the drive to be recognised by Windows PnP over USB.
Thanks StewR – that seemed to do the trick and I’m now running the latest firmware. Not really noticed any difference aside from the version number changing, but I guess that’s partly a good thing.
I’ve had one of these for a couple of months and not had any issues, including a painless upgrade of the F/W. But like pdown85 I am having clock problems and my sync program (ViceVersa) does not like it !
Anyone else noticed the clock drifting, or know of a fix ?
Just checked my landisk, which has been powered for a couple days now, and the time shows… “2007/02/09 13:53:47 GMT0″.
A bit scary considering it’s 8:15 am by my watch.
Yes, there’s definitely some drift. I guess there’s a way to force it to recheck the time every, say, hour… but that’d be a firmware hack perhaps?
Then again, that could be because the recent firmware upgrade reset the NTP settings. I just set it to the NTP server of my ISP and it’s reset the time. Will check after the weekend to see if it’s still in-sync.
As a note, with DST enabled on the clock it was an hour out.
Hi all,
Read part of all your stuff but could not solve my problem.
No response from HTTP://169.254.0.1
Have succeeded once but since than, no possibility.
Powering up wih reset button donws seems not to solve my problem.
Does anyone who know (someone who speaks French if available)
Cheers,
Comment by Michael Foster — January 25, 2007 #
Fuck reserved area to registered users => Trash
Just managed to set mine up after some fun and games although the drive vanishes from my PC on close down. I have to map the drive to the network everytime. Found your information enlightening. I find accessing the drive admin via IE using http://storage to be more reliable.
Just managed to set mine up after some fun and games although the drive vanishes from my PC on close down. I have to map the drive to the network everytime I power on the PC. Found your information enlightening. I find accessing the drive admin via IE using http://storage to be more reliable.
Sorry for the duplicate entry. Just managed to keep the drive connected on restart by selecting the box “reconnect on logon” in the network drive connection window. I feel a little foolish!
So I guess you have the drive mapped to a something like e:? The problem I found with doing that was that often my machine would “pause” while the landisk span up, just from opening an explorer or something.
A better solution for Windows (IMO) is to just do “RUN” (or Winkey-R) and type in “\\storage”. No mapping of drives but most things still work.
Has anyone tried using this with a USB share switch? The single USB output’s working fine to my DVD player but I want to split it to feed my digital photo frame as well…
Has anyone managed to save to the (mapped) drive from an application – e.g. Excel. Mine tells me that the disk is full or, when using save as, that there is a protection error. The file is not read only or password protected.
The only problems I’ve had accessing stuff on the drive was when I wasn’t using a mapped drive letter, and that was an issue with the program I was using not coping with the \\storage pathname.
The only thing I can think of is if the spin-up causes a timeout when saving the file perhaps? As a test, before you click “save” try opening an explorer window to your drive to make sure it’s spun up, then see if you get the same problem. Just a thought.
Mmmm. Good thought but no go. There does seem to be some kind of conflict problem between MS Excel files and Star Office 7. Maybe this is at the root of it. I will have to investigate further with other types of files.
Just to add a comment to Michael Foster’s excellent tip for getting Vista to connect to Landisk shares:
I found the only way I could authenticate was to prefix the connection challenge ‘User name’ with ‘guest\’ followed by the username.
It may seem obvious when you’ve previously connected from XP, but for someone starting from Vista this could be a headache :-)
anyone else having this problem?
while most of the time my drive was working well (though kinda slow) sometimes i was losing connection to it. when pinging it or checking for connected devices at the router the drive was not found, i had to reboot it everytime to get it working again.
this was quite annoying as it happened at least once a day and i had to go upstairs everytime.
i was using V45 + bootloader 67 and now i upgraded to V46 + bootloader 70. upgrade worked fine through the web-interface and i am curious to see if there are any changes.
I’m now losing connection also, but it usually happens when copying files, in my case approaching 600MB, although this may just be incidental.
Has anyone suffered similar problems with v46 or using a version where they never lose connectivity? I am seriously considering regressing to an earlier version to see if this solves the problem.
Hi All!
I have the same device. I have an annoying problem with it. Everything works fine, but the ftp acces over internet. The landisk is behind a router but no matter what the ftp port number is, certainly forwarded or dmz-ed by the router. I tried different versions of firmwares and bootloaders and another router without success.
Does anybody know a solution?
“Comment by Michael Foster — January 25, 2007 #
Fuck reserved area to registered users => Trash
Comment by Marc — February 9, 2007 #”
No need for that…everything i put on the site i posted i posted on here first, my drive is still going strong but im sure the sleep function doesnt work
http://www.aroundmyroom.com/2007/03/07/landisk-firmware-upgrade/
V47 out here
First
with vista this option “Invoke Vista’s secpol.msc utility and setting the “Local Policies >
Security Options > Network Security: LAN Manager” authentication level
to “Send LM & NTLM — use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated.”
is not working!!!
same problem still have
SECOND
FIRMWARE HERE….http://www.station-drivers.com/page/landisk.htm
dont load this firmware its corrupt totaly your device believe me i try today and my device is gone to service
and third
try this firmware for work with vista
http://www.aroundmyroom.com/2007/03/07/landisk-firmware-upgrade/
i dont have right now landisk
i must wait a week for my new landisk
after that i’ll try
I can get mine working with direct ethernet from computer, but am confused about how to do it now it is connected to my wireless router. It is a belkin 7230-4. I run Xp.
BTW My box shiped with no manual, so i am trying to work things out from the posts here.
last news
finally technical service send to me new device :D
i upgrade http://www.aroundmyroom.com/landisk/beta/landisk47-b4.rar new firmware
and working with VISTA now
perfect
I purchased a ns-347 from ebay. It will not let my computer pull an ip address when I plug it in directly. It is also not seen by my computer when I use USB. Any one know what to do to fix it.
Hi.
Anyone got any ideas why I am getting pathetic speeds like 658kb a sec?? Drive is fairly modern… Firmware 47 loader 70. Vista… ?????? It writes faster at around 2mb plus but is reading it back in kb not mb speeds…..
Hi. This is very strange..
I am running Vista.
I am on the latest firmware but have tried them all…
I can write to the disk at 4mb a sec..
It only reads data off it at around 480k to 980k to 1.0 mb max
surely reading is faster than writing..
I just cannot get it to go faster when reading..
What on earth is going on…
Anyone?
PS> I have tried two hard drives in it – a 120gb and an 80gb with same speed results on both drives…
Thanks.
To Steve:
Have you tried checking the speed via USB2? If so, you’ll need to set your drive to Master for it to be recognised by XP.
Looking back at my earliest posting, I achieved around 22Mb/sec (just to be quite clear, that’s 22 mega-bits per second) writing TO the drive over the LAN. I can’t recall the read speed, but I believe it is generally a bit higher than the write speed (that’s via 802.11b WLAN from my laptop)
Another suggestion is to connect directly to the Landisk using a crossover cable and seeing what speeds you get; in that way ruling out any other local network issues.
In my (brief) experience of Vista, I haven’t seen any speed problems.
Correction:
my WLAN is 802.11g, not 11b. Also the rate mentioned above is a maximum, with typical figures of 6Mb/s and upwards.
Any idea whether its possible to give this device a DIY firmware makeover like the Linksys NSLU2 (http://www.nslu2-linux.org/)?
Been considering getting a NSLU2 but I would prefer an all in one solution (rather than USB drive + NSLU2)
I’d really like to run slimserver/itunesserver etc from one of these.
Be nice if it could be used as a USB print server too.
Whilst we’re talking about about wants…..incorporating torrentFlux would be nice.
hi all,
thanx for the useful stuff.
i got myself this toy but cannot make use of it.
after following advices and read the lines and updating the firmware and so on i still cannot see the hard disk inside.. i am using 250GB which is working fine if connected internally to a pc but this device once i reach it through the browser setup pages it tells me that there is no hard disk :-(
crazy like it is but if it does not see the hard disk then i even don’t know what works or does not .. i dont see the whole thing through USB even.
any ideas?
thanx!
a.
May be you must set your hardisk as master (Set Jumpers)
thanx
i got the hard disk replaced and it works just fine now .. but!
the clock seams to stop when it’s powered off, disconnected, or even when it’s on sleep (idle) … not to worry about it but i thought if any one noticed the same
i also have it hooked to a wireless adsl modem (comes with ethernet) and can access it using SMB from my pc (hooked also to the modem via ethernet) but not through laptop which connects to the modem through wireless .. i could reach it from the laptop via ftp though ..
i ll play around to see if i can get through .. if any luck i ll post it
btw, the light leds are indeed annoying a bit
best,
a.
Is anyone having problems with FTP access from the Internet?
I tested it earlier and it was working.
Rebooted my router and now it won’t connect.
I had this problem before as well.
When I first set up my NAS,FTP was fine then after a couple of days nothing.
I thought the new firmware from aroundmyroom had solved this,but now it’s returned.
I have oneof these drives and it seems to be working ok. Windows Media Player can see and access files ok from both my PC and my wifes PC. There seems to be a small problem with my wife’s Windows Media Player not updating its view of the media files, but I can live with that.
The question I have is that I now want to move to the next connectivity level – can I get the music files stored on the NAS sent to a wireless media receiver in my lounge? I don’t have a wireless media receiver yet because I don’t know if it will work with this NAS. Any ideas?
maraaheb: The clock will indeed stop when you turn the device off. Check your ISP for an NTP server, and set the device to check that for the time – I’ve not checked to see if my NAS has “lost time” lately, and I’m at work so can’t check it right now.
Pat: Only thing I can think of here is that your Router would need to be set up to forward port 21 (ftp) to your NAS device. After rebooting your Router it would need to reallocate IP addresses (via DHCP) to your various devices. It could be that the NAS box has a different IP address now.
On my router when a device has connected and has an IP address I can specify that it’s static (meaning that the IP will only ever be allocated to that device). This way I can safely do port-forwarding.
May be worth checking the IP address.
Regarding SMB connections from a laptop. The only issue we’ve had with my GF’s laptop is due to Windows trying to map a drive to \\storage\… before the wireless network adapter has come up and connected. Of course this fails.
I’m working on the laptop later tonight and I’ll probably try to fix it by running a program on startup which will ping the NAS box until it sees it exists, then map the drive using the “net use e: \\storage\directory” command.
Thanks icabod
But I have port 21 forwarded correctly,checked it on grc.com
Also the NAS has been given the same IP as before.
So I shouldn’t have to alter any settings on my router.
Yet I still can’t get any incoming connections.
I can FTP into the drive locally and SMB streaming is working fine.
Hello everybody
I have read your comment about LAN-disks and hope that you can help me with an annoying problem. I have a SC101, which is actually performing ok, but it makes my computer freeze after the SC101 has been into a kind of “sleep-mode” and when I here the Drive spin up again my computer very often freeze. Does anyone have an Idea of a solution?
Hi Leif.
I’ve seen the same thing on my machine. My guess is you have a drive-letter mapped to the lan disk? I had this, and whenever I opened an explorer window (or ACDSee, which is what I usually use for browsing my machine) it would freeze while getting information from the NAS drive. I can only think of two solutions.
1. Set the NAS drive to never sleep (I don’t recommend that).
2. Don’t map a drive-letter to your NAS drive.
If you do the latter you can set up a shortcut to automatically map the NAS to a drive-letter so you can use it when you need it. Just set up a batch file with the following in: “net use z: \\storage\directory”. Or you can just use the “run” menu and do “\\storage” to open a window to it.
Hi icabod
Thanks for your quick reply.
Your are right, I have mapped 5 drives from the SC101. The SC101 is using Dataplov_ZFS as filesystem. So I can not see that I can use the “net use….” for mapping a drive. The purpose for me to have the SC101, is to make automatically back-up of various files on my computer. Therefor I would prefer that it was active all the time.
I seem to have solved my FTP problems.
I turned off “Passive Mode” in the FTP client(FlashFXP) and moved the FTP into DMZ
SOS,
As I got it working fine for a couple of days and moved –yes, moved not copied– all my stuff .. documents, photos, music, everything … it again stops working …
it does not see the HDD any more … I tried the WD2500JB in a pc and it seems gone .. Invalid Partition Table .. I just MOVED 160GB of my stuff there with no other copy .. I am scared to try another HDD inside the NAS …
This will be the second HDD damaged but now with my files on it ..
Can it really destroy A HDD .. corrupt the partition table? It seems it can because this the second time it happens exactly the same way ..
I am taking it back and have to find a way to recover my data from the HDD .. is that possible with the partition table seemingly invalid?
I am one unhappy person right now ..
a.
Hi maraaheb.
No idea why the NAS would trash your drive. There are ways to restore in invalid partition table (I assume you need to know what the drive was partitioned like before). I’ve never tried any of the methods, but a search for “restore invalid partition table” gives a lot of results. I imagine a lot of the tools will be commercial. Also check out Major Geeks which has a few tools listed that will attempt to restore your partition table.
Before you do any of that tho’, it may be an idea to find a disk mirroring/backup tool that will back up the drive sector-by-sector to DVD (maybe with compression). Again Major Geeks may help you there.
As a disclaimer, I’ve never tried any of the programs that do stuff to recover partition tables, so I’ve no idea how well they work.
thanks icabod,
I got some one to do that as I was not sure if I could do it myself without the risk of totally losing it. I got access to my files again but we had to treat the drive with a new format. Strange!
I have had the drive back into the NAS and it worked fine again before it did exactly the same.
I waiting for Easter holidays to be over so I could take it back. I am done with trying around though it suits my needs perfectly and it’s affordable.
Thanks again,
a.
A further update: I seem to have cured the Landisk losing connection and hanging. Did this by extending the Sleep time from 5 minutes to 15 minutes.
Not sure why this should make a difference, unless a low sleep time conflicts with some other watchdog timer.
Now the only problem remaining is the crappy time drift. Has anyone manage to improve theirs? My impression is the clock isn’t being syncronised with Internet time. The only time it works is when I go in and click ‘Enable’.
To my mind the Landisk should re-sync automatically at least once a day.
Hi All,
Anybody had issues with “Disk Not found!”
I removed a disk, which was working, to put another one in. Now, no matter what I try, it will not detect my disks.
I have tried resetting etc, nudda.
Using via USB is fine however. Just refuses to allow LAN access.
Struggling to upgrade FW as I get the Kernel To Large. I already broken one before trying to upgrade. Don’t want to make this two.
Cheers,
Crispin
Crispin: Well as you can see the disk when you connect via USB I would suggest you check the format of it. It needs to be FAT32, so if you’ve formatted it to NTFS then it won’t be seen.
Regarding the firmware update I had the same problem. Check StewR‘s comment, it helped me get it working.
Hi, great thread, been very informative.
I have got one of these drives and all works fine, I have updated to the latest release of firmware and got the black pages, like iceabod very little change, which is a good thing.
My only problem is FTP access from the internet… what am I doing wrong? I have tried most things in all the threads, I have set-up port forwarding and DMZ and have the NAS on a fixed IP address in my network, and also use a DNS to keep my IP constant. I can get into the menu page of the NAS via internet but I can not see any folders or files. I have also tried FlashFXP and Smart FTP but no luck.
The error messages I get from the FTP software is connection fail or An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine.
My router is a Netgear DG834GT and the error message in the log is Wed, 2007-04-11 10:07:54 – UDP Packet – Source:????????,9856 Destination:192.168.0.?,1085 – [DOS] Have used ? to protect the insane. PLEAS HELP, I FEEL I AM GOING MAD.
Thanks
I’ve managed to get FTP to the NAS from the internet working (tho’ I currently have it turned off). Not really sure what I did to get it going, tbh. The error message you’re getting indicates that you’re connecting to the server (sometimes at least). Try setting your ftp client to passive (PASV) mode, that may help?
I’ll try setting up the ftp server again on mine this evening, see if I can spot what I did to get it working.
Thanks Icabod that would be very helpfully. I just can not understand it, this one has me beat.
@Centro: Just re-read the error messages you’re getting and I was wrong, it looks like there’s no connection.
Anyway…
I enabled ftp this morning and it seems to be working fine even through my works firewall (which is usually very strict). I’ve not set up anonymous ftp, i just set up a single user with read/write access to a single (empty) directory.
Are you trying to do anonymous? Try setting up a new user, and give them access to a single directory, just for test purposes. I need to use a web browser to ftp through my works firewall, but that’s done with ftp://username:password@domain.com/
Works for me :/
@pdown, ChrisB, StewR:
Yesterday I set up a new NTP source (my ISP), to test the clock drift. I did that in the morning. By this morning the clock was about 7 hours out, which is fairly crap TBH. Incidentally, and I’m not sure if this is just an issue with the new firmware, but the state of the “Daylight Saving” checkbox made no difference to the time.
I’m not sure what can be done to fix the drift at the moment… if it happened on my Router I’d telnet in and have a play, but I don’t think you can do that with the NAS. If anyone has any thoughts, that’d be lovely.
Hi, I bought one of these. Have put the IDE drive in, fires up. Followed instructions on here but no luck. here’s my situation :
- Connected Landisk to computer
- Tried to ping 169.254.0.1, but nothing
- tried to amend LAN connection IP properties to 169.254.0.2 with gateway to 169.254.0.1
- cant see the device
- when i do ipconfig I get “media not connected” – something like that.
Any ideas? I have a wireless router that assigns IP addresses through DHCP, but following on from what has been said here I guess I need to disable that bit first on LANDISK ? Can’t do if I can’t access the thing.
thanks. Ash
sorry, another question, am i right in connecting this to the PC and not the router? if I connect to the router will it know it needs a 192.168.0.x address ?
Connecting the device directly to your pc should be fine as it has it’s own dhcp server.
If you connect it to router it’ll switch off the dhcp automatically and collect an ip from the router.
http://storage once connected will access the web interface.
thanks Pat, but think I’ve tried both and can’t get the web page up…..
if i connect to PC, do I need to change any settings on the PC to pick up the LANDISK ? Its my main PC connected to the router with a 192.168.0.x address. Once I take out the ethernet it no longer has any addressing.
If I connect to router, guessing my router would automatically assigned next IP in range of 192.168.0.x ?
Wondering if its knackered.
Personally I’d manually disable the DHCP server on the NAS – two DHCP servers on a network can just confuse.
Ash: I assume your PC is set up to get an automatic IP address from your router? If so, unplug the router and plug in the NAS to the same ethernet port on your PC. If the NAS has DHCP enabled your PC should pick up a new IP address, then you can go to 169… and turn off the DHCP, then reconnect your router and connect the NAS to that. It’s what I did, and my router saw the NAS quite quickly.
You say that doing “ipconfig” says there’s no device connected… perhaps try another network cable? It could be a cross-over thing? Just a thought.
thanks for the prompt reply. think I tried that, but will it another go tonight when I get home. To answer your questions, yes the PC is setup to auto ip address from the router.
Seems simple enough, will remove my ethernet cable and connect the LANDISK and see what happens. I’m pretty sure I’ve tried this. Where should I check to see if its picked up the ip address? just do ipconfig /all ??
thanks for the prompt reply. think I tried that, but will it another go tonight when I get home. To answer your questions, yes the PC is setup to auto ip address from the router.
Seems simple enough, will remove my ethernet cable and connect the LANDISK and see what happens. I’m pretty sure I’ve tried this. Where should I check to see if its picked up the ip address? just do ipconfig?
thanks for the reply. i think i have done this, but will check tonight. Should I see the ip address setting when doing ipconfig /all ?
Hmm, your comments got caught in the spam bucket for a moment there. Just doing “ipconfig” should give you the information you need. If it doesn’t show a new IP you can force a change by doing (for example): “ipconfig /renew” which should force all of the ethernet adapters on your PC to refresh their IP address.
Ok, tried my reliable ethernet cable (using it now) with LANDISK. does not assign an IP address. Get a windows msg “LOCAL AREA CONNECTION – NETWORK CABLE UNPLUGGED”
checked ipconfig info through cmd “Ethernet adaptor LAN – media state disconnected”
cannot do ipconfig /renew as says no devices connected.
Next test to see if it works on USB2.0, otherwise guessing its goosed :-(
well i think its done for, tried everything possible. only luck i had was that I got an ip address of 169.254.23.57 ?? but could not access from browser.
also tried USB2.0 but did not recognise the unit.
any final thoughts ?
I’ve never tried USB connection, so can’t help with that. The fact that the network cable is shown as “unplugged” would indicated that there’s an issue with either the cable, or one end of the connection. As you can connect to your router we can rule out the your PC. The fact that you got an IP address at some point means it’s not the cable (you can get cross-over and straight-through cables methinks, I had both types arrive with my old ethernet modem). Only thing I can think of is that the connection on the Landisk end is iffy — could be loose, or could be shafted.
Now to get really techie… does the status of the connection change if you wobble the cable at the Landisk end? Could indicate a number of things (bad connection on the board (dry joints), crap socket…).
Other than that, I’ve no ideas.
I believe the unit is faulty, went through the reset process with the guys i bought it off and it should reset back to the IP of 169.254.0.2 but it comes back with something totally different.
Just my luck I think, got a unit that was dead. Its going back.
ok, all good now, got a replacement and all setup.
For FTP, I’ve set in my router (under firewall rules).
But how do I access the NAS (192.168.0.x) externally?
anyone tell me how to get external ftp working ? I’ve setup the server within the NAS, setup a service and rule within my netgear router, have opened up port21 in the windows firewall.
Cant get through to it ??
Hi.
You shouldn’t need to do anything on windows firewall – the router should direct any traffic on port 21 to the NAS, it shouldn’t need to go near your pc… unless you mean you’ve set up windows firewall to allow your pc to ftp out.
Hmm. Sounds like you’ve done everything I did to get mine working. All I can suggest is you reboot your NAS and see if it works.
Also I assume you’ve set up a user and password, and given them access to a directory on the NAS? Otherwise there will be nowhere to ftp to :)
yes, sounds like I’ve done everything right. what do you use to ftp to the NAS, can I test using something like this in the browser or explorer ?
ftp://{user}@ip_address
From work I can easily get access to my NAS ftp (through the strict company firewall no less) by yes… doing ftp://username:password@ipaddress/
Actually with my ISP I can just use hostname instead of ipaddress, but either should work.
hmmm. keep getting remote connection closed. I am getting a dynamic IP address from Sky broadband. This is obviously the same during the time of when the router is on, which is different problem.
Do you ftp to the IP address of the adsl port or the gateway address. have tried both and keep getting connection refused or remote connection closed.
When you go online your router should be given an IP address by your ISP… the dynamic one. Providing your router is set to forward port 21 to your NAS drive, then you just ftp to the IP assigned by your ISP.
However… I’ve had problems doing this from inside my network, but it worked from outside.
icabod – thanks, will give that a go. i’ve only tried it from home.
Of course, if you’re “inside” your LAN, then you should be able to ftp to the NAS just by doing “ftp://IPOFNAS/”, and your browser should prompt you for a password. Mine does (just tried it – I’m at home at the moment).
Doesn’t work with USB!!
Just bought one of these too. Had problems with formatting the drive (even using the browser interface) and no luck at all with USB. After reading though the Blog I tried setting the drive as Master (rather than Cable select). Now works with USB in XP and on the Mac. Now if only FAT32 supported files bigger than 4GB I could backup my Mac (the sole purpose I bought this for!).
I purchased one of these 2 days ago. I needed a cheap NAS HDD solution for my home office that my Mac Laptop, Vista PC and G/F XP laptop could all access. It worked fine with XP, mostly works with my Mac (sometimes the Mac won’t find it?) but just locked up Windows Explorer on Vista.
But then I happily found this page. I followed alexian’s advise and downloaded this firmware update – http://www.aroundmyroom.com/landisk/beta/landisk47-b4.rar
and hey presto it works with Vista, and it may have even improved with the Mac – but need to test more. the new web interface looks much nicer too.
I would recommend this cheap bit of hardware to anyone.
Hi Ash / Icabod,
Just wondering if you have got the FTP working yet. I have tried most things but just can not get in. I have two internet connections here at home, one for work, so I am trying on one to the other but still no joy.
I just get timed out responses…Hope there is a new up-date soon, then it might fix mine?
I have tried most things about the clock floating, with same results as you all have.
Will try on :-(
I bought a cheap NAS from ebay: http://cgi.ebay.nl/NAS-BOX-3-5-EXTERNE-LAN-DRIVE-SAMBA-FTP-USB-LAN-DHCP_W0QQitemZ300103255593QQihZ020QQcategoryZ32897QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I am not sure if this hardware uses the nas-basic firmware which is posted on this website: http://www.station-drivers.com/page/landisk.htm
Can somenone confirm that I can use NAS-BASIC47
on my NAS? I want to upgrade because I have a connection problem with Vista.
Thank you.
To icabod, others
Time drift.
I find this still to be the case.
It matters not whether I sync to an external NTP source or to the NTP server on my LAN Linux box, the NAS drifts by up to 3 hours within a 12 hour period.
As others have noted the state of the “Daylight Saving” checkbox made no difference to the time drift.
If anyone hears of, or finds, a solution I’d love to hear of it. In the meantime there seems little option but log on every couple of days and re-sync the time.
My ftp works fine (or seems to). Not sure there’s anything I can add that I haven’t already mentioned, really. Only issue I could think of would be if your ISP blocked you from setting up FTP, but that’s unlikely (!?).
Hi Dennis,
I tried to setup mine to work as a FTP server, however, i can not create user at all —> ‘Action Failed! General Error’
I have also tried the SMB, the folder list show my harddisk ‘IDE[0] Slave, Model=[Maxtor] !’ and I can not create other’s folder list.
What can I do, Please help, thousand thanks.
Stanley
right, have now checked access over the net (uaed my brothers internet access) and everything works now as I would expect. Used a free ftp client in passive mode.
So here’s my list of actions :
1. Setup ftp username and permissions through NAS interface
2. Setup rule and fwd portward on my wireless router
3. Accessed NAS over the net.
Speed of transfer is not brilliant over the net, wouldn’t want to download a massive file, but its okay for accessing normal sized files.
To be honest I think the NAS is best over an internal network. Get some brilliant transfer rates and you can setup mapped drives as well.
All this cost me £15 as I had a spare IDE drive. Cant beat that !!
Great review icabod.
I have a question. If I was to buy a 750Gb IDE HDD, would I be able to partition it into 3x250Gb partitions do you wonder? I’m thinking maybe not.
If I was to use a 750Gb partition, am I likely to encounter any Operating Systems that might have issues with the 48LBA limit (137Gb) or is this actually handled for me by the LanDisk’s firmware?
Thanks in advance.
Anyone any luck getting this unit to work with a Mac?
Think I’ve followed most of the advise here including upgrading firmware (via a friend’s PC) and I can access the web based status screen, IP COnfig screen etc. But no sign of it anywhere else. Any advice much appreciated.
Chris
@ Bomber Brown
it’s handled by landisk
By lan interface you can only see 1st partition (only one)
Yes, I got this working on an apple mac via LAN [smb://192.168.0.3] also works on a USB connection.
I have not got ftp working on a LAN yet – the drive will mount but it cannot be saved to, even with correct log-in.
Well, I got one of these a couple of days ago, and I’ve just come to set it up. All was going well until, well, everything stopped going well!
I set up the ftp server, and was trying it out on my laptop connected to the net through my mobile, couldn’t get it to work, so I turned the unit off and on, and that was it. Now when I connect it to my PC, I’m told that it’s connected, but can get nothing. The IPs are set right, but if I try to connect using a browser or “\\storage” I get nothing. It still works on USB, so I’m thinking the LAN socket or controller is dead…
Ahaa, I connected using the IP address rather than http://storage, and I’m in! Woo hoo!!
Right, now for setting up the FTP, I’ll let you know how it goes…
Everythings working really well so far. FTP’s set up and going great, all the PCs on my home network (wireless and wired) can access the drive, everything’s cool!
I’ll give it a week or so and post back…
For those having trouble with it on your Mac. IF you have updated it with the latest firmware it should work.
If you have trouble finding it, or it doesn’t appear under network in Finder. With OSX 10.1 or later you will be able to access it via Windows File Sharing (SMB). Go to Finder, choose Connect to Server from the Go menu. In the address field put smb://(your landisk ip address)
Hope that helps.
I’ve had 2 of these boxes for a couple of months, alongside a WD Netcentre. 250G drive plus NAS box for 52 GBP can’t be bad. However, the Maplin boxes don’t seem to let more than one remote client access them at any given time – bit of an issue if you set one as the destination for P2P downloads. I find the throughput is slower than WD but not a problem – I write DVDs across a 100M LAN at 2X reliably. I also sometimes find they can hang – power cycle fixes things – not sure if someone is hacking in or its a firmware issue! Would I buy again – probably not, just a bit too flaky – may try 47-b4.
Got one from Maplins at beginning of week, worked for about 10 minutes until I tried to change the Group Name … froze and after that could not access through browser at all. Tried all sorts of variations to get hardware reset (button on PCB) but made no difference. Eventually took it back today and got a replacement … which worked for all of 10 minutes before it froze too … this time when I tried to set time. Looking at IPCONFIG it seems that after it freezes it can’t get back the correct IP Address (it switches to 169.254.102.20) and also fails to get any Default Gateway address at all. Tried IPCONFIG/release and /renew but doesn’t change anything – it fails with a timeout. Hardware resets make no difference at all (do they even work?) Unless anyone has any great ideas I’m going to have to get my money back tomorrow … which is a shame. Any suggestions??
Phil, Seems like you’ve had a couple of dodgy ones, I had all sorts of problems with my first one, 2nd one I got is working fine (still)
35 quid is good but 20 is better. Anyone tried this one?
“Techworx 3.5″ Aluminium USB 2.0 & Ethernet HDD Enclosure”
http://www.saverstore.com/productinfo/Product.aspx?catalog_name=Savastore&product_id=20008725&rstrat=12708
I bought one of these from Maplin back at the start of the year – it sort of worked, but I was too busy to sort out all the configuration, so i shelved the project until yesterday.
Which was exactly when I realised that I have lost the manual and cannot remember the user-name and password for login (I have done a reset, so I assume that everything should be back at factory defaults).
I cannot get it to connect to XP using USB (all my other USB devices work fine) and it does act fine as a DHCP server (giving me an IP address of 169.254.0.2 if I remember correctly). When I try to http://169.254.0.1 I get the login panel, but have tried all the (obvious??) combinations of default user names and passwords – to no avail.
Does anyone know of a URL to download the manual?
Can anyone post the default UserName/Password combo?
Failing that, its getting the shotgun treatment (just like my old external modem – there is something deeply satisfying about destroying technology, JUST when it thinks it has beaten you !!!)
Cheers, Niall
@Niall Saunders
Hi,
try as login:landisk and password:landisk.
@all
there is a problem with my landisk.
last night i loose my samba share.
the disk can be accessed via usb and web-interface.
but i cant set a new samba share.
if i tried it the whole net connection to the landisk went down.
i have heard, a new firmware will solve this, but which firmware is the right one?
please, can you help me?
(sorry for my english, i am german) ;-)
regards
Peter
@Peter
“Vielen Dank”
I will try again when I get beck to my home office.
Niall
Hi all.
Well, my kit is still going ok. I have a couple annoying niggles with it – for example if there’s a power-cut my NAS boots up faster than my Router, so it overrides the DHCP, meaning all of my IP addresses on the network are screwed up. Hehe. Power-cycle everything, but keeping the NAS turned off ’til last seems to sort that out.
@Peter: Hmm, it’s worth trying the latest firmware anyway – it may not fix your Samba problem, but will fix some others you may encounter.
@Joe: I’ve personally only tried this NAS kit – it was a semi-impulse purchase. I’m considering building my own tho’, with a small Linux distro. That way I can run different servers on it too, and perhaps not get the annoying clock drift. But hey, that’s a dream for when I’m less busy :)
Hello everyone,
I’ve been using my NAS disk (Nasbasic 46) for a while which is fine generally, but there are a couple of things.
1) Device looses its connection as others have mentioned, requiring a reboot. Does anyone know how to solve this (new firmware / sleep timer)?
2) FTP. Can’t access FTP from my work connection (external) even though other people can. I CAN access FTP sites generally though. Is this anything to do with annonymous access?
Thanks in advance for any help!!!
Alwyn
Hi Everyone
Does anyone know where one can get the online manual for the NS347-S. I have no idea what I have done with the manual that was in the box. Please help if you have it scanned or something. Thanks
Thanks so much for posting this, I have finally managed to get my friend’s unit working. Couldn’t get anything out of it, but it responded to pings. Updated the firmware using the update tool on one of the links posted and hey presto, a functioning drive!
Hi,
I bought a Techworx 3.5″ Aluminium USB 2.0 & Ethernet HDD Enclosure from Saverstores and managed to set it up by trial and error since the instructions in my view is poor!
The reason I couldn’t format the disk using the Landisk utility within the web control utility was that it couldn’t see my HD. However if I removed the USB connection then it worked. So what I have now is that as long as I don’t have the USB cable connection then the HD is seen on the LAN but as soon as I plug the USB cable it is not and if I check the status via the web utility while the USB cable is plugged in then “no disk is found” and soon as I remove and check again then it is OK. The firmware version I have is NAS-BASIC45, LOADER 69. I am not sure if this how it should work, either USB or LAN, not both!
Vjop – Landisk’s won’t work with both usb and lan connected at the same time.
Usb takes preference.
So it is working correctly.
@Alwyn: All I can suggest is to try the newer firmware.
@Mike: I don’t know of anywhere that provides a downloadable manual. I would do it but don’t have a scanner. TBH there’s not much of use in the manual that isn’t in the comments above (such as the default IP address, etc).
Thank you Pat for clarifying that. So it is either LAN or USB
Thanks icabod – I’ve upgraded the firmware, and it’s still doing the same thing (locking up). Could it be running too hot?
Just got one of these and it works fine in USB mode, but when I trie to set up for LAN use the setup page regonises the drive ID but does not show the drive size and I cant aceess it. Any ideas?
Just got one of these and have been using over network with FTP and Windows XP2. Worked perfectly. But tried in USB mode and did not work UNTIL I found this blog and saw the drive should be in MASTER mode. Just reset it to master and now working great in USB2 mode. Got bored doing a 50GB backup over wireless. Direct connection is much quicker, but will go back to network connection later
And if you want to use it to ftp, then try using the http://www.no-ip.com service – its great, you have a little service that runs when you start your PC, and then you get a domain name that maps to your router, (which you port forward 21 to the address of your NAS box). If that helps anyone stuck with dynamic IP addressing.
@Alwyn
What value is your Sleep Timer currently set at? I found a value of 5 minutes was too low and often resulted in the unit hanging. A value of 15 minutes seems to be quite reliable.
While I’m not using the Landisk daily, when I do go to use it, it wakes up without issue, i.e. does not hang (so far…)
I am having a problem getting both my wireless router and Nas drive working router is a linksys adsl Router also tried it with a belkin cable router. they both work together however I am unable to access the internet when this is plugged into the network, its driving me insane have done numerous resets and con fig changes but cant work it out I can still however access the router just cant get the internet not even able to ping it, help would be appreciated.
@RJS
Sounds to me like your NAS drive is overriding your routers DHCP server. I get this if I have a powercut… I’ve set my NAS drive to have it’s DHCP disabled, but it seems to boot up quicker than my router, so if there’s a powercut I can’t get online because the NAS provides me with an IP address rather than it coming from the router.
Make sense?
If you can get to the web interface of the NAS, disable DHCP, save the settings, and power it off. Then reboot your router (cycle the power or whatever). Wait until that’s up-n-running, then power on the NAS. In theory, the NAS should see that a DHCP server already exists, and get an IP address from that.
Of course, this all assumes your router provides your network with its IP addresses.
@StewR,
Thanks for that – I will try it. Currently, my sleep timer is 0 (off).
*STUPID QUESTION ALERT!* *STUPID QUESTION ALERT!*
Does anyone know if it will be possible with a software patch, to make this device operate as a media server? I’ve recently got a PS3, and would love to be able to stream content to it directly from this device. I heard that some NAS servers can do this, but I wondered if someone could get this to do the same…..
@alwyn – it has Samba streaming built in.
So if you get Linux installed on your PS3,
You should be able to stream videos and music that way.
Thanks Pat, but I was really looking at the DLNA compliant Media server stuff, such as Twonkymedia which runs under unix. Seems like the answer is to change NAS drive!
Please help. I’ve got one of these from Maplin. I can access the web admin pages, I can access it via ftp, I can access it via USB. I’ve set the workgroup and the I/P is being allocated by my router ok. Everything looks fine except if I try to map it as a network drive it wants a user id and password and no matter what I try it just keeps on asking me and I can’t get past that point to see the actual folders on the disk. I’ve tried it on XP sp2 and Windows 2000 with the same results. I’ve tried the latest firmware as well. Many thanks.
John,
username = admin
password = admin
Then on the web admin page, under SMB server use the -> button to copy folders from the folder list to the sharing list. Make sure the sharing password for each folder you have in the shared window is blank.
Then in windows explorer\tools\map network drive… under ‘folder’ type
\\\folder name
eg \\192.168.0.5\Sam
Check your IP is the same as you thought it was as it may change if you switch on/off the NAS
hmm, trying to set this up with Vista – doesn’t see the device at all. Have downloaded firmware files (see Comment by Michael Foster — January 25, 2007) but now I just have 2 .bin files – what do I do with them?
My NAS is connected via E-net to a router.
Thanks,
Mike
Mike,
Log on to the web interface of the router (by typing the default IP address) from a web browser window.
This is from memory, so this might not be exact, but on the maintainance page, you should see a ‘firmware upgrade’ option with a browse button. Click the browse button and navigate to the .bin file to update your firmware.
Make sure you dont touch the computer until its finished, as turning off before it is complete is a very bad idea!
Hope that helps.
Alwyn
Mike,
The userid and password you gave are for the web admin pages which work fine. When I use the Tools/Map Network Drive… it then asks me for a userid and password. admin/admin does not work, nor does any combination I can think of. My I/P is correct, I can ping it ok. If I go to My Network Places the devices shows up i.e. Storage-xxxx but I should be able to click on it to select a directory to then map to. However, if I try to look at the device I just get the request for user id and password again. I have two directories neither have a password and they are both in the sharing list but I’m not getting as far as seeing them. I have just exchanged my drive with Maplin because their ‘technical’ help said it was faulty. I didn’t think it was but they exchanged it anyway. The new one does exactly the same thing. There must be something I’m not doing. I’m on XP but it does the same on Windows 2000.
It works fine under USB and also ftp, it’s just mapping as a Lan drive which doesn’t work but that’s what I want it for !!
Please can anybody help. So near and yet so far.
John,
have you tried – the password for the map of the network drive in Windows needs to be the same as on the website when you set up the drive.
This is what I did:
Open the web page (user, password) (admin, admin)
Then I went to the SMB server option on the left.
On the folder list highlight a folder (I think these are root directory folders only)
Click the –> button.
Now the folder appears in the right hand list. You can add a password at this stage by highlighting the shared folder in the right window and clicking password. I think that if you just leave it then it is just when windows asks for the password.
Is this any help?
(Why did this password not appear in my message?) the default password for the drives are blank and blank.
not the word, just hit return
Mike,
Thanks for all your efforts. I did try blank / blank but that didn’t work either.
I have now fixed the problem. I did some more searching on the web for Server Message Block (SMB) and found that it requires TCP port 445 open to work. I changed my firewall and it burst into life. Everything is working fine now.
Thanks once again.
Stationdrivers has a NASBasic48 out that makes the 2882 based Landisk work with Vista.
There may be a possibility that there will be a solution to the HDD Sleep problem. When the Sleep mode is enabled, the drive does not wake up again. Presumably the firmware issues a Spin down command but when a new access comes in from the LAN, it does not issue the correct spin up & resume commands. The LAN interface is still OK as I can issue a Reboot from the Maintenance page & the disk is accessible again.
Like many others, I have also had the network interface hanging when making large transfers of many files (a few GB). Discovered that taking the external housing fixed it (transferred 80 – 90 GB over with no problem) so it appears to be an overheating problem rather then S/W.
Have drilled some holes in the sides of the enclosure (at the PCB end) and it is better but not 100%. Will continue with more holes/vents until fixed.
My Landrive is the Techworx version
Stationdrivers has a NASBasic48 out that makes the 2882 based Landisk work with Vista.
There may be a possibility that there will be a solution to the HDD Sleep problem. When the Sleep mode is enabled, the drive does not wake up again. Presumably the firmware issues a Spin down command but when a new access comes in from the LAN, it does not issue the correct spin up & resume commands. The LAN interface is still OK as I can issue a Reboot from the Maintenance page & the disk is accessible again.
Like many others, I have also had the network interface hanging when making large transfers of many files (a few GB). Discovered that taking off the external housing fixed it (transferred 80 – 90 GB over with no problem) so it appears to be an overheating problem rather then S/W.
Have drilled some holes in the sides of the enclosure (at the PCB end) and it is better but not 100%. Will continue with more holes/vents until fixed.
My Landrive is the Techworx version
@John
I found Norton Internet Security to be a right pain, especially as it didn’t seem to warn me of attempts to use SMB. My usual (but insecure) trick is just to turn the firewall off until the next reboot.
@Dave
I just hope you don’t need to drill too many holes to eliminate the large file transfer problem!
Keep us post on the optimal hole density :-)
I have a Techworx, Maplins and Safecom landisk all with the upto date firmware. All the landisks suffer when the sleep setting is applied. However when the setting is disabled by entering 0 in the settings they work very well.
hi all, haven’t looked in for a long time (my 3rd exchange one has been working fine since I got it- first one trashed a 500gb Deskstar, see back in January comments, which Maplin eventually agreed to replace).
Anyway, I see a lot of you are having problems with clock drift. I don’t know why but mine keeps time perfectly. Settings are: sntp- auto; time server- clock.isc.org; time zone- GMT; and daylight saving works.
Still on NAS-BASIC 45, LOADER 67
I guess I may be lucky and have one that manages to keep time?
Gazz D
Hi. I too have the sleeping disk not spinning back up problem, but not the time drift problem.
I’ve got NAS-BASIC47, LOADER 69 from here:
http://www.aroundmyroom.com/landisk/beta/
I have to hard reset by switching the device off and on again. Can someone point me to where there are other bioses available?
Have just bought a unit from Maplins, with NAS-BASIC45, LOADER 67.
All seems well apart from losing all shares, IP address (I’m using a fixed IP, no DHCP), etc when I turned off power last night. V annoying. It seems to be reluctant to accept a change of hostname or workgroup as well.
Would a firmware update resolve this and solve other problems – or am I best leaving well alone? If so, whose site is best to get the update from?
Hi
Is anyone able to get SMB to work with Windows XP Home edition? — what user name do you use to log in via SMB??? I can use ‘admin’ to look at the http configuration pages, and I can use FTP to upload files but SMB is not being allowed – I get ‘Error 5 Access Denied’ I’ve turned off the firewall, etc.
How do you create users for the SMB access?
I’ve got the same “Disk Not Found” problem Crispin has. Took it back to the shop and swapped it – the new one works on USB, but connecting it to the network the web interface says there is no drive fitted. The drive is FAT32 formatted, and works in a PC.
I’ll try a firmware update.
@Chris: Just check the comments above, they’re the only places I know of to get firmware.
@diyhell: The firmware upgrades are usually recommended, just to see if you get the problems still. Not sure why you’d lose settings – the only issue I have on power-off is the fact that the NAS starts up quicker than my Router, so starts giving out IP addresses to everything. Not tried it with a fixed IP tho’. I would suggest trying the firmware from the Station-Drivers website.
@Richard: I’ve had no problems using the system from my GF’s laptop, which runs XP. I haven’t set any usernames for accessing the Samba shares tho’, so maybe that’s an issue?
Just as an aside, I was in Maplin the other day (buying a couple replacement surge protectors, as I think the mother of all power spikes hit my house last week) and I see that the LANDisk is on offer again… £35 a piece.
Personally I’m considering replacing my NAS with a Linksys NSLU2, a similar device that uses USB drives, but which “the community” has embraced… so much so that you can get things like mail servers, torrent downloaders and the like. Seems like an altogether better kit, and for as little as £50.
I bought 2 of these units, for £15 each, from a local computer dealer. Neither of them work as LAN devices, but they sure are a good deal as USB2 boxes, at that price.
However, if anyone has actually succeeded in getting one to work properly, any other useful suggestions would be appreciated. I have tried flashing the firmware, as suggested above, and resetting them by booting whilst holding down the reset button for 30 seconds, but no joy.
Pinging the units does get a response; the blue LED flashes occasionally, but all packets are lost.
Just bought one from Maplin. Installed 60GB drive, formatted as FAT32 via USB, then connected to the home router. Used Firefox to set the Samba server to no passwords, disabled FTP, and away she went. Very easy setup.
A few gripes, none very serious for me:
- very slow, particularly when writing a series of small files.
- can’t delete a directory unless it is empty.
- loses time when switched off.
- indicator lights too bright, fixed with a black marker.
Firmware is NAS-BASIC47-B1, LOADER 69.
All in all, I am very pleased.
RWB any luck on fixing the units i am having the same trouble with one of my units.
?
i have clock drift issue as well the load is NAS-BASIC-46,loader 70.
Hey. So I bought one of these about 6months ago, had a HHD with 3 partions, all NTFS. converted two of them to FAT32. This beast works fine over USB, and have had no problems using it. So now onto the LAN, connected it to my router, and i can access http://Storage and play around with the settings. now what? lol (i have lost my manual). how do I access the files that are on there. is it something like: http://Storage/K/Photos
having issues with updating firmware as well (tried many of the solutions provided here but to no avail) but im more concerned about accessing my files first. any help would be greatly appreicated.
Cheers
@Sly: As far as I know the device will only see the first partition (at least when viewed over the network).
When you go to http://storage you need to set up the Samba shares on the SMB Server page. Here you may see the folders you’ve already created. If so you need to add them to the “Sharing list”. Then to access these folders from the network you would open something like “\\storage\photos” in your OS (you can just type that in the “Run” prompt in Windows).
Hope that helps.
thanks for getting back to me quickly. If it can only see the first partition over the network then thats a bit of a problem. I have a windows partition as the first one on NTFS, which I sometimes boot from USB. hmmm I guess its gonna just be a case of keeping only the data i want on that partition, converting it, and then mergeing all three partitions. Iv got Partition Tragic (so called because of the many problems that it causes) so hopefully things will go ok..
At the moment when I am trying to create a folder on SMB server it says “Application Failed: Input Error Data” which I assume is it trying to put it on a NTFS partition.
thanks once again for your help
Just bought one of these Landisk NS347 from Maplin after buying a from Tottenham Court Road computer fair a while back. They would appear to be an identical gizmo in a different shaped box.
Things I have found:-
Firmware – http://www.enclosureservice.com/
Has Ver.48 Loader69 dated 14 June 2007 which sounds newer than anything posted here.
I havent tried it yet and it doesnt say what the change are. Other earlier revs on he site do include some details of fixes
Lan and USB at the same time? – NO, one or other not both
NTFS? NO, FAT 32 only
Upsetting it? With the NSUR-10100F the instructions are very specific. DONT press the reset button too long ( >5 seconds = BAD.) If you do it gets upset and you will have to reflash it back to the default flash image. See process and links at bottom
Default web front end Username and Password are :-
Username = admin
Password = admin
MAC address
Make a note of the Landisk’s MAC address before you do any changes. You may need it and it isnt written on the Landisk NS347 (it is on the Safecom).
Host Name
If you change the Host Name from “storage” and dont use the built in dhcp server you will need to either use the fixed IP address you have assigned to it (for example http://192.168.0.x), find the dynamic IP it is assigned, setup the IP and new name in your own local DNS server or add the new name to your local hosts file (i.e. C:\windozedir\system32\drivers\etc\hosts) to be able to use the machines ID in your web browser.
e.g.
change name to “foobar” using another dhcp server and type http://foobar in to your browser wont find the landisk admin page as there is nothing to tell the browser what the mapping is between “foobar” and the IP address of the Landisk.
A fix would be to edit …/etc/hosts on the local machine and add a line
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx foobar (where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx = the ip addy of the box)
DHCP
If you plug it on to a network with another active dhcp server it seems it disables the internal one itself and either accepts an ip address from the other dhcp server or uses one that has been set manually by the user.
If you plug it in to a network with no DHCP server it acts as one using the address range 169.254.0.x , Subnet mask defaults to 255.255.0.0 , primary dns 169.254.0.1 , gateway 169.254.0.1
One of the ways to fix / flash an upset box is to plug it directly in to a pc using a network cable. It seems that you dont need to use a crossover cable. I seems to work just fine with a straight cable as long as you are going port to port.
My Safecom did appear to have a default of 2550.255.0.0 (sic) at one point after resetting the firmware but this might just have been an accidental typo by me ;)
I bought the Landisk cause I coudnt get past the XP uname/password issue when trying to use SMB. However after reading here about the :445 port. It being blocked by various firewalls may well be the issue. Looks like I might end up with two of these if the port unblock fix works!
Manuals
CAUTION THESE MANUALS ARE FOR THE SAFECOM NSUR-10100F Dont hold me responsible if you try something and it breaks your Landisk!!!! You have been warned!
Safecom NSUR-10100F manuals can be found online and cover more detail than the Landisk NS347 manual does. The details are essentially identical apart from the appearance of the screen shots (different firmware revs) and the Safecom having a LCD display and temp gauge
The manuals can be found
Instructions on reflashing after upseting them can be found
and the the repai firmware (which is at the bottom of the linked page) can be found
Hope this helps
Mike 8-{>
Sorry tried to be clever there the links should be
Safecom NSUR-10100F
http://safecom.cn/code/sub/category.asp?prdid=403&subcatid=48
Firmware – http://www.enclosureservice.com/
Ver.48 Loader69 dated 14 June 2007
Manuals
CAUTION THESE MANUALS ARE FOR THE SAFECOM NSUR-10100F Dont hold me responsible if you try something and it breaks your Landisk!!!! You have been warned!
Safecom NSUR-10100F manuals can be found online and cover more detail than the Landisk NS347 manual does. The details are essentially identical apart from the appearance of the screen shots (different firmware revs) and the Safecom having a LCD display and temp gauge
The manuals can be found
http://safecom.cn/code/product/uf/caddy/NSUR-10100F/UM/User-Manual_final.pdf
Instructions on reflashing after upseting them can be found
http://safecom.cn/code/product/uf/caddy/NSUR-10100F/FAQ/repair.html”
and the the repair firmware (which is at the bottom of the linked page) can be found
http://safecom.cn/code/product/uf/caddy/NSUR-10100F/fmw/NSUR-10100F%20repairing%20Software.rar
Hope this helps
Mike 8-{>
As a follow up. I tried flashing my safecom NSUR-10100F unit with the Ver.48 Loader69 firmware. Result = 1 dead safecom ;) Ah well lesson learned ;)
Mike 8-{>
@Mike: That’s a painful way to find out that the firmware doesn’t work with the NSUR device. It could be worth opening it up to see if the flash chip is removable, and hence writeable in a PROM programmer.
The v48 firmware was mentioned above – it adds Vista support apparently. Not sure why the enclosureservice.com site only has Loader69 tho’, as I was only able to use the newer firmware with Loader70. Hmm.
It was a risk ;0) but worth a shot ;0). As you say I may be able to get at the flash ram and reflash it out of the machine. That’s on the list for next week sometime.
Mike 8-{>
could anyone possibly meter out the led voltages on the front panel and tell us what they are, im thinking of swopping round leds so i get blue for the usb , has any one done this and does it work
john
Just can’t seem to “get” the process of upgrading the firmware. Can someone post an idiots (that’s me!) guide.
Thanks
Michael
@Mike:
I made a guide to unbrick Landisk devices, may be it can help you. God luck.
http://www.aroundmyroom.com/2006/11/26/landisk-how-to-fix-a-bricked-landrive-alternative-style/
With the NS347 unit i also had the trouble of the unit hanging after some minutes of work.
I noticed it is a power issue. When the Hard Drive gets hot, it demands more energy, which the cheap electronics of the device can not provide (Well, suppose you can expect low power from low price and quality).
So im using an ATX power supply to power directly the Hard Drive and the NS347. Just soldered a 12v jack from one of the yellow/black/black/red connectors of the power supply.
Now the HD is always energized, and the unit is working almost flawlessly. by the way, i also suffer from the “DHCP racer wants to be the DHCP server at any cost” so i must power it only after my routers/switches are online.
Of course, i did this after trying every firmware and bootloader version you can find on the net.
In the love-hate relation i have with this device, (i will continue to mod until it finally utterly breaks) im looking to know if it can hold more than one HD, if you can edit the samba implementation, etc
Zhiva: Interesting about the power (or lack of) causing the system to hang… I’ve had this kind of thing a few times. Also interesting to hear of your mod… I may try to power the HDD externally and see if that helps the issue I’ve seen.
Icabod :
Glad you’ll try my fix. Just be cautios of using the same power supply for both the HD and the device, so you dont get any voltage diferences.
BTW, i’ve already connected the 2nd HD to the unit, ( my IDE cord didnt fit until i took away the pin on the board; you know, these cheap electronics always have parts they dont need :) )
The Result:
I only see the Previous MASTER disk in the web UI, and my SMB conf got back to default… you’d say it won’t work but..
Rebuilt my SMB conf, logged through smb from other computer, and it works (Transfered 150MB of files without failing). Now, by previous experiencies and some reading i know that if an ide controller can ONLY manage a MASTER unit, you wont get any functionality at all if you connect 2 ide devices (master & slave) -i might be wrong-; but in this case, i can work fine with the master HD.
NAS-BASIC46, LOADER 67,2006-10-15
1x Seagate 200GB MASTER
1x Seagate 8GB SLAVE (oh well, needed a quick spare)
Just seen that A-Tec do a SATA version (http://www.a-tecsubsystem.com/websys/atec/web/products.jsp?prodId=1185760830662)
Anyone selling it in Europe? Googling reveals that they only seem to have made it to South Africa so far.
I’ve got a spare SATA disk, but I don’t really want to spend more than the cost of one of these NS347s on the enclosure, so the other products out there are too pricey for me.
Man… This Lan drive runs REALLY HOT!! I mean the temperature is scorching, you could fry eggs on it. Is this normal?
I actually have it mounted with the feet gripping it from above, so its suspended under a shelf, it does however have good ventilation, although it does not actually have vents.
Surely it cant be right that it runs so hot???
Hi there
I am looking for a firmware file for the NS 347S the SATA version of this drive.
IF anyone could point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it.
@Andy A: My box doesn’t run too hot, TBH… it’s certainly touchable when it’s running. That said, I have it set for about 15 minutes sleep, so it would be worth checking that the drive is actually spinning down after whatever time you have set. I guess it could also be a factor of the drive you have installed?
@Wynard: Until Patters’ comment, I didn’t even know there was a SATA version – been a bit too busy recently :]
Not spotted any firmware for it so far.
As a side-note, I’ve just looked at the A-Tec website, and the NS347 is no longer listed. Just so’s you know.
Hi there
According to the the guys at A tech the official firmware site is http://www.enclosureservice.com/landisk.htm
What they did not say is if the this firmware is also for my NS 347S.
Mine does not seem to want to accept the firmware from there.
Does the new NAS-BASIC48 firmware from June fully support Vista? I’ve had to lower authentication to “LM and NTLM” to allow access to password protected folders. Is this right?
I have had mine connected for a week only via LAN. I have to say that I found the web interface almost too simple because it didn’t seem to do much (oh I do expect a lot for £35.00!). My manual seems to have been put together as a bit of a laugh as some of the pages are repeated and others are just out of sync. I am in the throws of reformatting via a DOS window as the web interface format was just too quick for me – as a former Freenas user I had a bad experience of corrupted files after copying them onto a nas disk that had been formatted in record time such as this had done!
I too found that my Maxtor 250GB had arrived from the manufactures set as Cable Select (wish I had checked that before) and as such XP really struggled then gave up trying to install the USB method but now it seems to work, even though for some reason XP will only let me reformat as NTFS (hence the dos shell).
All in all I am fairly impressed with it especially as it was so cheap and the lights go nicely with my router – I could open up as a runway!
Hi all, Had mine a couple of days so decided to see if there where any upgrades. nice place this have learnt a lot. Upto now I hve had not a single problem with it and my Vista laptop connects ok. Ftp worked fine to share files with my Dad. Was wondering if it is possible to ise this drive as a webserver as well?
Icabod, great stuff you got going here! Orignally I connected to my NAS using Static IPs. I then decided to change to DHCP and I cannot access my login admin/admin screen. I get an IP 169.254.44.234 but no Default Gateway. When pinging 169.254.0.1 I get a perfect response. I have tried the reset button numerous times, but nada!!! I cant connect thru USB either. How do I know the password which I originally set (I obviously forgot it) has gone back to the factory settings? I think LONEWOLF (couple of moths ago)above had a similar problem, did he by any chance had his prob sorted? On my taskbar it states I have Limited or No Connectivity, I do since I can ping the default Gateway. I tired in IE to access http://Storage, Http://169.254.0.1. PLEASE HELP!!! Very Desprate, Rons(South Africa).
if you are getting limited to no connectivity then sound slike you have aproblem on you tework on the PC try changing the TCP/IP to automatic
or change it to something similar to your router
EUREKA!!! after a grusome 8 hours my NAS is back.
I hope this procedure will help some blokes who lost their devices due to the Firmware corruption (as I discovered).
First of all you need to flash your drive ( you have tried the reset button (the grey round thing on the PC board) – How do you do that I hear you impatiently scream…
- To flash the drive you need the software (quick_upgrade.exe) wich can be downloaded here: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/p.moore…ck_upgrade.zip
- Two exe files will be extracted:
1. LANDISK_WTOOLS.EXE
2. QUICK_UPGRADE.Exe
But make sure you have downloaded the Firmware at:
http://www.enclosureservice.com/
Click LANDISK, I downloaded Ver.45 (I don’t have .RAR decompression tools yet – someone please help)- save it at an easy to find space on your HDD – your desktop.
- Click on the QUICK_UPGRADE.EXE (ver1.4) (By now any other networking device (in my case my HSDPA data card is disconnected)- The GUI has a Spreadsheet look.
- Connect directly to your NAS using your LAN port (RJ-45 & not USB!!!).
- Scanning automatically starts and a host is found (169.254.0.1);
- CLICK BROWSE (Go to your Desktop & Clik on the Firmware Ver.45 (in my case) – UGRADE but is enabled on GUI.
- Click UPGRADE // message received = Upgrade successfully completed.
- In DOS prompt type: IPCONFIG /all.
Whallah the Default Gateway 169.254.0.1 is back!!!!!
- I then (START | RUN | Typed http://Storage.
I’m now capable of accessing my data on my NAS (Very slow connection tho’ – guys I’m still waiting for the link for the .RAR stuff).
I trust this was helpfull, as I’m glad I got my stuff going again.
Thanks
Rons (RSA)
EUREKA!!! after a grusome 8 hours my NAS is back.
I hope this procedure will help some blokes who lost their devices due to the Firmware corruption (as I discovered).
First of all you need to flash your drive ( you have tried the reset button (the grey round thing on the PC board) – How do you do that I hear you impatiently scream…
- To flash the drive you need the software (quick_upgrade.exe) wich can be downloaded here: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/p.moore…ck_upgrade.zip
- Two exe files will be extracted:
1. LANDISK_WTOOLS.EXE
2. QUICK_UPGRADE.Exe
But make sure you have downloaded the Firmware at:
http://www.enclosureservice.com/
Click LANDISK, I downloaded Ver.45 (I don’t have .RAR decompression tools yet – someone please help)- save it at an easy to find space on your HDD – your desktop.
- Click on the QUICK_UPGRADE.EXE (ver1.4) (By now any other networking device (in my case my HSDPA data card is disconnected)- The GUI has a Spreadsheet look.
- Connect directly to your NAS using your LAN port (RJ-45 & not USB!!!).
- Scanning automatically starts and a host is found (169.254.0.1);
- CLICK BROWSE (Go to your Desktop & Clik on the Firmware Ver.45 (in my case)
- UGRADE button is enabled on GUI.
- Click UPGRADE // message received = Upgrade successfully completed.
- In DOS prompt type: IPCONFIG /all.
Whallah the Default Gateway 169.254.0.1 is back!!!!!
- I then (START | RUN | Typed http://Storage.
I’m now capable of accessing my data on my NAS (Very slow connection tho’ – guys I’m still waiting for the link for the .RAR stuff).
I trust this was helpfull, as I’m glad I got my stuff going again.
Thanks
Rons (RSA)
Get winrar from http://www.rarlabs.com
@Andrew – Thanks,I’m sorted, running currently on Ver.48
USB not working 100%, but I’m getting there.
well after a few days of faultless working now saying device not recognised so guess the hard drive has failed
sorry meant to say Disc Not Found so will get a new drive and try it.
lol pressed the reset button on the PCB and its all back to normal again. Wonder what made it think the drive was not connected?
I hava an intel mac mini. I can see shared folder only via my windows xp laptop bt nothing through the mac …
any ideas?
thanks
Great little thing!
I found the best way to format drives is to use the enclosure itself, it still reconises NTFS – NTFS discs can be accessed via USB anyway, just not over LAN :(
ive found firmware 48 at
http://www.enclosureservice.com/landisk.htm
this also includes a list of changes, you need the latest version to support VISTA along with the reg tweak shown on MAPLINs FAQ for the device
I originally posted July 14 to say I was very pleased with the LanDisk. About 2 weeks ago it started reporting “Disk not found” but a reboot or two appeared to fix things. The problems then got worse and the disk is now never found. I have tried 3 different disks (formatted as FAT32) but LanDisk finds none of them, although all work fine when connected by USB. I have tried the reset button and upgraded the firmware to version 48 (from http://www.enclosureservice.com) the problems persist.
Any ideas anyone or is the LanDisk broken?
Rons asked on 24 Aug for RAR decompression tools. Try 7zip which copes with most zipped archives.
Hi again! Just tried out the latest firmware from http://www.station-drivers.com/page/landisk.htm
The web interface has yet another new logo, and appears to run faster and more responsive, but it still refuses to work after the hard disk has spun down. Trying to connect to the FTP server actually shows that the embedded system is still working, because it asks for usernames and passwords, but at the point where it must be trying to spin the disk back up, everything hangs until a hard reset. :(
All I want is for it to spin down and then back up again when needed! Could it be a hard disk specific problem? I’ve got a five year old Maxtor 27Gb disk in there at the moment which has never given me any trouble.
hi there i have just got one of the landisk case iv put a 200gb disk in it all turns on ok but i can not set it up on my pc iv gone by manual to set up but i cant get any where with it it will not update the firmware it will not do the http:// to go in to settingg. if i go to setings network connections rigt click properties tcp/ip properties obtain ip auto when it i pluged in by rj45 it says limted but if i type in ip address 169.254.0.2 subnet mask 255.255.0.0 default gateway 169.254.0.1 it will say its connected but it still will not work if there is any one out there that can help please let me no thanks.
Hey guys…..
After having this gadget for a while, i had the same as Gazza, where the device was not being noticed via ethernet or USB, using the onboard reset switch(stupid place!) , that didnt do anything. So a trip to Maplin, another was ordered. Touch wood, i now can see and download via http/ftp, only prob is the firmware shows 47 rather than the new version 48 bootloader 0.69.
Full history and downloads can be found here.
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/landisk.htm
Rich
I bought one of these of sum guy on ebay who was selling refurbished ones for 20quid, the 1st one broke, wouldn’t work on USB or LAN. Got it replaced and bought a hitachi deskstar, and it is brilliant. Can access FTP from mate’s houses, samba works great, though i suspect the data transfer is a bit slow sometimes (could be the computer). I just wanted to know how you update the bootloader and firmware, I have NAS-BASIC46, LOADER 67,2006-10-15 installed, but there is NAS-BASIC48 out now. Im not sure whether to upgrade, I don’t plan on getting vista, but I like to keep my devices with the newest firmware, but im scared that the firmware update may corrupt the landisk and render is useless like my first one.
Also bought one of these a couple of weeks ago. Running it on the LAN in the 192.168.0.xx range(SMB) on which I also have a PC (WinXP) and Mac (OSX Tiger). Initially the transfer times were just terrible so thought I would update the firmware as advised. However, on updating to NAS-BASIC47 the drive completely dissapeared and wouldn’t work on either LAN or USB. Running LOADER 69 the scan picked-up the disk with an IP of 164.254.0.1 (factory default?) against which I was able to update with NAS-BASIC48b. After re-booking the disk immediately appeared back on my previously set IP of 192… Very strange… Perfomance however is significantly increased = transfer speed is several times what it was on the Out-of-the-Box firmware.
I have 4 of these units. All work great on my LAN.
The only problems that i do have is 2 of them have very bad time drift problems as reported by others.
I note in playing with the firmwares is that its the 2 with basic 48 loader 70 with the time drift problems. The ones running basic 48 loader 67 work great with no time drift.
I cant seem to downgrade the firmware from loader 70 to 67. Any one have any ideas.
I’ve had mixed success with the Mediacase Landrive, firmware NASBASIC48B1 Loader 69, bought in July from iMission. Same basic hardware as other landrives.
The company I bought this from isn’t responding to email requesting answers, nor on their support site — anyone have any hints on the following?
I’m using it under Windows 98 and Linux, as a network device (not USB).
The sales literature and manual claim that it can handle large files (over 4Gig) by splitting the file internally and rejoining it. This beats the 4Gig limit of the FAT32 file system. This should work when used on the network port (not USB). However, it won’t even copy files that are 2G to 4G. From windows “Cannot create or replace [file]: The parameter is incorrect”. From Linux “Value too large for defined data type”.
The manual states that the SMB Config page “Allows you to create/remove folders *and set their share permissions*”. There is no way to set the permissions on the folders – either they are shared to users or not. I need to share a folder out Read Only, it should be possible, it’s a fundamental thing for a server to do, there’s no option to do it. There’s an option to make FTP read-only, but SMB?
The case is solid aluminium to provide superior cooling to the drive. It doesn’t. The drive is mounted on a plastic frame, preventing any heat transfer. One panel of the case is pressed into contact with the top of the hard drive, but makes very little contact because the top of a hard drive is not a machined flat surface: There are bumps and ridges for the hermetic seal gasket. So it takes a long time for the heat to transfer to the case. The drive sits stewing at over 40′C while the case stays cool. Eventually the case gets up to 40′C too. It really needs a fan.
Bugs:-
FTP Server doesn’t handle wildcards correctly. Doing “mget *.txt” gets everything in the directory.
SMB Server doesn’t handle wildcards correctly in a DOS Box. “dir *.txt” returns all files in the directory, regardless of extension.
NTP server settings are not retained and have to be reset every time the power is cut off. I set a custom ntp server, but it always reverts to clock.isc.org and forgets the one I set.
Multiple screwups with timestamping of files transferred between linux and the SMB server, when viewed on the FTP server they have timestamps of 2067 …
FTP Server claims to be defaulting to BINARY mode, and yet does an ASCII transfer. You have to explicitly set it to BINARY mode even though it’s already on BINARY.
ftp> get blah
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for blah (32776 bytes).
WARNING! 28 bare linefeeds received in ASCII mode
File may not have transferred correctly.
ftp> bin
200 Type set to I.
ftp> get blah
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for blah (32776 bytes).
226 Closing data connection.
32776 bytes received in 0.0872 secs (3.7e+02 Kbytes/sec)
Bought one of these from Maplins today, works fine but has firmware version 47. How do you know which of the (many) 48 versions to use for upgrade.
I got one from Maplin on 5 Nov 07 and it has the 47-B1 /69 firmware.
My first problem was reformatting a 200 Gb drive back from NTFS to FAT32. I tried SwissKnife, as recommended. It crashed once after 30 minutes or so and thereafter on any computer simply bommbed out.
On the point of returning the box to Maplin I tried Partion Magic 8. 25 seconds and I had a 200 Gb FAT32 drive. Why recommend SwissKnife?
Then I had a problem following the instructions but eventually blundered into the right LAN setup. It works. Now happy.
Course I now need a second one with another 200 Gb drive to backup my backups. :(
I have now completed my first series of backups from one computer. During the whole operation the disk case has barely warmed up.
:)
One thing I forgot, the FAT32 structure for the network drive and the 4Gb file size limit. This means that to store large backups means I have to use the split file feature and keep parts of the backup below 4Gb.
And another. I noticed the Network time was not updated when I selected one of the offered sites. Maybe the wrong time zone.
Anyway I entered a UK site (Cambridge University and bingo, it updated as soon as I clicked OK.
ntp1.uk.uu.net
Grrrr! I haven’t changed my password but the bloomin thing wont let me in! I tried the reset switch thing inside but there was a slight problem…it has no sodding reset switch!
Looks like I am gonna have to take the hard drive out, then take an axe to the case!!! Right now I can’t wait!!!
Does this run on the NASBASIC firmware?
If so, I can certainly give links for firmware 48B6 and Bootloader 70.
Also a custom interface that I rather like.
I just purchased one of these and the things is up and running on our small network via a BT business hub.
I just updated the firmware to NAS-BASIC48, LOADER 69 but I still can’t FTP from outside the LAN.
The firewall log shows:
2007-11-16T11:41:35Z info src=192.168.1.66 dst=192.168.1.67 ipprot=6 sport=2724 dport=21 Session Matches User Pinhole, Packet Passed
which seems to indicate that the router is allowing traffic to the device, but that the device is not responding (the browser is hanging)
ftp to teh local IP works fine
does anyone have any ideas?
@Paul P
I had similar problems to you.
I moved the NAS into DMZ and that solved the problem.
@paul p
PAt is right. You need to configure DMZ or port forwarding. Re-boot your router after you have configured the settings and it should work.
I am trying to make this landisk work with Mac OS 10.5. I have been able to try to set it up via the 192.168.2.3 but not the http://storage. I seem to have formated it but can’t get my Mac to see it on the network. Does anyone have experience with this product and OS 10.5???
Hi piper
currently MacOS 10.5.1 (Leopard) struggles with SMB shares which is which this NAS uses(some people can get it to access SMB shares others cant, including me). The only way I have been able to get files on and off using my Mac running leopard is to use FTP. A good free FTP client for mac is ‘Cyberduck. Feel free to email me at karl@linc2.net if you need anymore help (with this or anything Mac related)
Hope this helps
Karl
I’m using one of these too, mainly to store important stuff I don’t want to lose if we get burgled!
It worked straight away for me over my DG384G but it’s dog-slow. That bloody LED is far too bright. I covered it with black DuckTape and it still shines through in the dark! :O
Hi Jim
simply open up the drive and disconnect the cable that connects the LED’s to the PCB. Just pull the cable and the connector will unplug itself.
karl
LOL!
I just did that out of frustration and came back here to post that it works. Thanks anyway. ;o) Plus it’s good that someone else has come to the same conclusion and found it to work!
I first tried tucking the LEDs out of the way but didn’t like to think of the possibility of shorting. Then I thought “sod it” and just yanked the LED plug out.
Hi folks, I bought one of these yesterday to replace a failed Smartdisk NAS (it stopped working with ethernet, but could be used with USB – all I did was remove it from the network to use it as a USB connected hard drive).
I got the LanDisk up and running with the original Smartdisk Samsung drive and I found that I have the following firmware:
NAS-BASIC47-B1, LOADER 69
I followed Maplin’s FAQ to A-tec’s website to see if there is later version of the firmware, but I couldn’t find any downloads there.
Does anyone know what the correct source for firmware updates is?
And that’s some evil blue light!
Thanks.
@Cruachan – http://www.enclosureservice.com/
Thanks for the link Pat.
I have a Landisk NS347 with Samsung 400GB Drive. I can’t format above 38GB–why not?
I have XP SP2 but have tried Swisknife. Still no joy.
I am using a laptop–so I can not install the drive directly (via IDE cable) to do a low level format. Is there any way to format this 400GB drive either via the LAN or USB interface??
bright flashing LEDs. probably obvious: if they drive you nuts undo screws and slide out drive and replace the outside panel the other way up. LEDs no longer a pain and colour can still be seen adequately from side view. No more headaches…
Hi.
Thanks for this great informative blog.
I bought one of these from Maplin (now £29.99) and was very happy with it, until it went to sleep and never woke up again!! :-(
I tried various firmware updates, but non of them made any difference.
I took it back and got a replacement. I’m happy to say this one seems to be working perfectly!
The old one must have been old stock or something because it came with BASIC45 firmware…the replacement came with BASIC47.
A number of people have reported this sleep problem so I would advise you to take it back and get a replacement. Make sure it has the newer firmware already installed and hopefully it’ll be OK.
All in all a great bit of kit. It’s quite basic but does everything I wanted, and was a doddle to set up. I had it up and running in five minutes – even the FTP access (and I’m pretty clueless when it comes to things like this)
The file transfer speeds are pretty fast as well.
Tim
How did you setup FTP access and what FTP server/softwate did you use
Great blog! Thanks to all for helpful comments and discussions.
Here are some queries to which I haven’t instantly noticed answers – comments would be appreciated as it’s on offer at Maplin at the moment, and I’m wondering if it would make an effective alternative to our Fedora/Samba server, which we use as a domestic file store to allow family members to work on either of our 2 PCs or their laptops by keeping their mail and active files centrally.
1/ Does this box work OK if you use it for your working directory? I have another product which is fast and effective as a backup device, but running my Thunderbird mail profile from it is tediously slow and buggy.
2/ Can you have several partitions on the disk? If not, can you set user quotas in any way? Or ask it to tell you when the disk is 90% full?
3/ Can you set a home folder for each user and assign rw permissions for that user only? I’ve come across one freeware NAS application which didn’t seem to allow you to assign folders to individual users and require usernames and passwords for access!
4/ Pictures on the Maplin site show a rocker-type power switch, rather than a push button. Doesn’t this box need to be shut down through software, initiated by a push button? Do you really just turn the power off?
5/ Any estimates of the boot-up time before you can access your files?
Thanks in advance for clarification of these points, and apologies if they have been covered in previous posts.
Peter
@Brad Fuller
The 38GB limit is a windows issue (They think you should use NTFS for a drive bigger than 40 Gig!!)The landisk will format it for you (look under Disk utility)
@Peter
2) It only recognises the first partition
3)I haven’t tried to pwd protect any folders but that seems to be the only option
4)& 5)Yes just power down,powers up within 20sec using a 250GB seagate drive
HTH John
First, thank you for this guide! I’m sorry…I don’t speak English very well …I’m italian!
I have buyed the NAS ND348S (price 60 €) and i’m satisfied of this. It is not very permormant, but I think this OK for domestic use!
I found the new firmware’s version at http://www.enclosureservice.com/updates%20data/lan%20disk/ATEC-V01R04.rar and I install this today.
I have just one problem: It is not accessible through the Internet (ftp) but I think The problem is my router (sitecom) Have you any suggestion?
best regard
Thanks for posting this – I bought one of these a long time ago…but never got around to setting it up. Today I hooked it all up with a 500M drive – ran a netscan to see what address it had been assigned – guessed that it would have a web browser address and then guessed the login and password. Then I went googling and found this – which has saved me a bunch of time in setting things up.
Re the person having trouble with ftp – you need to enable this through the web interface if you haven’t already done so.
Below is a list of the firmware versions with their features for NS347,NS348 from documentation at website: http://www.enclosureservice.com/
I downloaded the firmwareV48LD69.rar and used the free Rarzilla (http://www.download.com/3000-2250_4-10780665.html) to unrar the file.
From my NS347 webpage menu I selected “maintenance” and then used “firmware upload” by browsing and selecting “FirmwareBasicNAS.bin” from my unrar’d files. Version 48 firmware was loaded successfully very quickly – I then rebooted.
List of Firmware versions
==================================================
RDC® RISC DSP Communication
RDC NAS FIRMWARE RELEASE NOTE
R2882 Firmware release note
5/25/2007
RDC basic NAS software version 28 release notes – 2005/08/29
Bug fixed:
1. Fix bug of “free space incorrect after deleting a large number of files”.
2. Modify code page number 1250 to 1253. Fix character display issue in between upper case and lower case.
3. Fix bug of “directory deleting fail”.
Add Features:
1. Through-put enhanced, Read: 10% to 20%; Write: 5% to 10% (depends on performance of HDD).
RDC basic NAS software version 32 & Loader V066 release notes – 2005/10/17
Bug fixed:
1. upgrade firmware fail
Add Features:
1. Add display loader version from MT or Web.
2. Add web reboot page
RDC basic NAS software version 35 & Loader V067 release notes – 2005/11/30
Bug fixed:
1. upgrade new firmware will destroy the hostname and groupname.
2. ARP bug.
3. DHCP Server auto start when disable and link down then up.
4. The name for the workgroup is restricted to 15 digits
5. NT4 SP6 samba issues.
Add Features:
1. support windows xp multi-language
RDC basic NAS software version 39 release notes – 2006/02/21
Bug fixed:
1. Corel Draw 12 & 13 file save
2. PC play avi (mpeg4) files online sometimes disconnected by target
3. Windows 98 Mount & disconnect when long time idle.
4. Word 2000 2 PC can open same file to write. restrict second one to read only.
Add Features:
1. Windows Search & config utility support
2. support LAN to LAN file size > 4GB (Max file size 16GB)
RDC basic NAS software version 41 release notes – 2006/03/17
Bug fixed:
1. Reset to default issues.
2. Create ftp accounts issues.
3. Format HD (slave mode) will have warning message.
Add Features:
1. Support MAC OS for Intel CPU version
RDC basic NAS software version 43 release notes – 2006/06/06
Bug fixed:
1. download data lose.
2. free size incorrect when delete a big file.
3. Homepage field is Null or Space, reject data.
Add Features:
1. Support Daylight Saving Time
RDC basic NAS software version 45 & Loader V69 release notes – 2006/08/31
Bug fixed:
1. Fixed the problem that rename file name does not work.
i.e. KOUS to Kous.
2. Fixed the problem that big than 4G file could not delete.
3. Fixed the problem that samba write config policy.
4. Fixed the problem that dhcp client write config policy.
5. Fixed the problem that RAM/FLASH file system,allowed seek over file size.
6. Fixed the problem that disable Web GUI scan disk /format disk policy.
Add Features:
1. Added Quick Upgrad Windows utility support
2. Added NetBench V7.0.3 support
3. Added Windows DOS command support
i.e RMDIR [/S] [/Q] [driver:]path
RDC basic NAS software version 46 & Loader V69 release notes
1. download txt file second time ,fail in win98
2. create 100 depth folder , delete fail
3. 16 bit program can’t execute on win98
4. download file err on mac os 10.4
5. upload >4g file 速度不正常
RDC basic NAS software version 47 & Loader V69 release notes – 2007/02/15
1. big memory not return (d-link switch loopback)
2. office 2007 access storage(excel ,power point ), garbage temp files be saved
3. scandisk web page auto refresh
RDC basic NAS software version 48 release notes – 2007/05/25
Add Features:
1. Vista OS support
==================================================
Below is a list of the firmware versions with their features for NS347,NS348 from documentation at website: http://www.enclosureservice.com/
I downloaded the firmwareV48LD69.rar and used the free Rarzilla (http://www.download.com/3000-2250_4-10780665.html) to unrar the file.
From my NS347 webpage menu I selected “maintenance” and then used “firmware upload” by browsing and selecting “FirmwareBasicNAS.bin” from my unrar’d files. Version 48 firmware was loaded successfully very quickly – I then rebooted.
List of Firmware versions
==================================================
RDC® RISC DSP Communication
RDC NAS FIRMWARE RELEASE NOTE
R2882 Firmware release note
5/25/2007
RDC basic NAS software version 28 release notes – 2005/08/29
Bug fixed:
1. Fix bug of “free space incorrect after deleting a large number of files”.
2. Modify code page number 1250 to 1253. Fix character display issue in between upper case and lower case.
3. Fix bug of “directory deleting fail”.
Add Features:
1. Through-put enhanced, Read: 10% to 20%; Write: 5% to 10% (depends on performance of HDD).
RDC basic NAS software version 32 & Loader V066 release notes – 2005/10/17
Bug fixed:
1. upgrade firmware fail
Add Features:
1. Add display loader version from MT or Web.
2. Add web reboot page
RDC basic NAS software version 35 & Loader V067 release notes – 2005/11/30
Bug fixed:
1. upgrade new firmware will destroy the hostname and groupname.
2. ARP bug.
3. DHCP Server auto start when disable and link down then up.
4. The name for the workgroup is restricted to 15 digits
5. NT4 SP6 samba issues.
Add Features:
1. support windows xp multi-language
RDC basic NAS software version 39 release notes – 2006/02/21
Bug fixed:
1. Corel Draw 12 & 13 file save
2. PC play avi (mpeg4) files online sometimes disconnected by target
3. Windows 98 Mount & disconnect when long time idle.
4. Word 2000 2 PC can open same file to write. restrict second one to read only.
Add Features:
1. Windows Search & config utility support
2. support LAN to LAN file size > 4GB (Max file size 16GB)
RDC basic NAS software version 41 release notes – 2006/03/17
Bug fixed:
1. Reset to default issues.
2. Create ftp accounts issues.
3. Format HD (slave mode) will have warning message.
Add Features:
1. Support MAC OS for Intel CPU version
RDC basic NAS software version 43 release notes – 2006/06/06
Bug fixed:
1. download data lose.
2. free size incorrect when delete a big file.
3. Homepage field is Null or Space, reject data.
Add Features:
1. Support Daylight Saving Time
RDC basic NAS software version 45 & Loader V69 release notes – 2006/08/31
Bug fixed:
1. Fixed the problem that rename file name does not work.
i.e. KOUS to Kous.
2. Fixed the problem that big than 4G file could not delete.
3. Fixed the problem that samba write config policy.
4. Fixed the problem that dhcp client write config policy.
5. Fixed the problem that RAM/FLASH file system,allowed seek over file size.
6. Fixed the problem that disable Web GUI scan disk /format disk policy.
Add Features:
1. Added Quick Upgrad Windows utility support
2. Added NetBench V7.0.3 support
3. Added Windows DOS command support
i.e RMDIR [/S] [/Q] [driver:]path
RDC basic NAS software version 46 & Loader V69 release notes
1. download txt file second time ,fail in win98
2. create 100 depth folder , delete fail
3. 16 bit program can’t execute on win98
4. download file err on mac os 10.4
5. upload >4g file 速度不正常
RDC basic NAS software version 47 & Loader V69 release notes – 2007/02/15
1. big memory not return (d-link switch loopback)
2. office 2007 access storage(excel ,power point ), garbage temp files be saved
3. scandisk web page auto refresh
RDC basic NAS software version 48 release notes – 2007/05/25
Add Features:
1. Vista OS support
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Thanks for the blog. I have just set up a landisk. I can see it in my IP table, and I can see it with the quick-upgrade (from above) but I can not view the www admiin page. I use username,password (admin,admin) but it comes up with a user authorization failed.
Quick-upgrade calls it storage-backup with NAS BASIC47-B1
how do I get in?
Upgraded firmware to NAS Basic 48 – and still no luck with the admin/admin to enter the web management.
FYI – If this happens to you you have to do a hard reset to reset the username passwords to the default settings. turn off the power. pull out hard drive tray. press small grey resey button on the circuit board. turn power on while holding down the reset button, holding the button for about 10 seconds. release the button – and voila. admin/admin now work.
To answer Peter:
1/ Does this box work OK if you use it for your working directory? I have another product which is fast and effective as a backup device, but running my Thunderbird mail profile from it is tediously slow and buggy.
Answer: You can redirect your My Documents folder to this box which works a treat.
I tried redirecting the shared (shell) folders by changing the registry key ( http://windowsxp.mvps.org/sharedfolders.htm )
but it didn’t work for some reason. I now just have a mapped drive setup which works fine.
2/ Can you have several partitions on the disk? If not, can you set user quotas in any way? Or ask it to tell you when the disk is 90% full?
Answer: No, no and no.
3/ Can you set a home folder for each user and assign rw permissions for that user only? I’ve come across one freeware NAS application which didn’t seem to allow you to assign folders to individual users and require usernames and passwords for access!
Answer: Again, no. You cant set NTFS security permissions at all. All you can do is create the share and password protect it.
4/ Pictures on the Maplin site show a rocker-type power switch, rather than a push button. Doesn’t this box need to be shut down through software, initiated by a push button? Do you really just turn the power off?
Answer: The drive will go to sleep after a user specified time. 5-60 minutes or never. It will spin up the drive automatically when someone tries to access it.
5/ Any estimates of the boot-up time before you can access your files?
Answer: 20 seconds or there abouts.
To answer the question about FTP access. Open FTP port 21 on your router or firewall and point it to the IP address of your Landisk. Create a share on the landisk and enable FTP access to the box. I recommend you password protect the share!! Then you simply open a web browser and enter the external IP of your router i.e. ftp:\\89.123.45.321\ and it should prompt you for your password and let you in :-)
Remember most ISP will randomly change your external IP address unless you order a fixed IP. So don’t be surprised if it stops working after a few days.
Hello everyone,
I have NAS-BASIC46, LOADER 69
500 GB
[Master] ST3500630A 3.AAF
??DVD PLAYER CONNECTED TO LANDRIVE??
Everything works fine,ftp,map…
HOWEVER, I was kind of hoping that when I connected the landrive to my “Cheap” usb Majestic DVD player it would work and play my movies, mp3….
To my sadness, all that happens is that the dvd player interface loads, I sellect usb, that loads, but without anything in it! No folders, no movies, mp’s, zero, nothing :(
I am wondering if new firmware would help me fulfil my task?
It would make my day if anyone could help me with this.
Thank you in advance.
Liam
Hi, I’ve had one of these for over a year with out issue. The other day I had to re-image my machine. Now when I try to remap the drive I get the request for User Name and Password. None of the folders have passwords. I’m using XP pro, I’m the admin and I don’t have a password. Been pulling my hair out with this for a week now.
Any help Welcome.
@Graham
Have you tried entering the admin username/password for the box?
I had this too even though I had no folder passwords set, tried entering the admin username/password and it worked. Thought it was just a Vista thing though.
Hi, I’ve had 2 of these both running F/W 47/69 for about 6 months without a problem until today. I’m sharing my experience because it may help someone get straight to the problem (don’t think there is a solution!) without the (indiscriminate) swearing. One of them developed a flashing green light with no blue light and no connectivity. First reaction – curse & reboot, then curse and use reset button inside, all with no useful outcome. Had read that people have experienced HD being bricked, so removed the HD: hey presto, it reboots without the disk, it works with a different disk. Tried the disk in a spare PC: motherboard LEDs come on but no other activity. Unplug disk – pc starts fine. Google pointed me here http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/70068/which suggests a seized drive causing excessive power drain. So, to summarize, one piece of learning and two questions:Flasing green light and no blue light means insufficient power – in my case because the HD was overloading, but presumably could be caused by a failing power supply.Did the disk fail (its a 6 month old 500g WD) or was it pushed by the landisk?Is it significant that one box has spindown enabled (the other one)whereas this one didn’t?
Anyway – net result looks like a warranty return to WD and a reminder not to keep anything irreplacable on the landisk.
@Liam,
Not sure quite what you were expecting, but the USB port is there purely to enable the hard-drive to be accessed via USB lead connected directly to a PC (note: you cannot access hard-drive via Ethernet and USB at same time).
USB port cannot be used for any other purpose and AFAIK there will not be any firmware updates to change this functionality.
If your DVD player supports a FAT32 drive (via USB) then you might reasonably expect the player to ‘see’ media on the Landisk drive. Perhaps worth you checking the Majestic specs to see what the player USB port supports?
Has anyone here had trouble connecting to a LanDisk BASIC48 version over USB when a disk is >320Gb full? I’ve got a 500Gb drive, which works as expected over the LAN, but will no longer be recognised as a USB disk. Windows says “there was a problem installing your hardware” and Mac OS X just doesn’t do anything. I can tell it’s trying to connect because the LanDisk web interface reports the drive as “not present” when USB is connected. The drive has 373Gb in use – I’m not sure at what point it stopped working over USB, but suspect 320Gb.
Cheers,
Mike
Hi,
I am having problem accessing landisk via USB. It works with network cable but all the computers that I have tried the disk on fails to read the disk. When I plug the device through USB I do get a pop up saying new USB hardware found, when I try to look for the device in my computer the disc does not show up. Can anyone please help or give me ideas as to what I should do.
Manoj
@Manoj,
This seems to be a common problem.
Please check your drive jumper is set to Master. Some drives come shipped configured as Slave.
Hi
I’m having a problem now where i can’t connect to the web config at all since i upgraded the firmware to V01R04, i have tried connecting the network cable straight to my machine and into my router but i can’t seem to get it to work. I have tried resetting the LANDisk device but it doesn’t work. PLEASE HELP!!
I’ve been having a very erratic and strange problem.
I have a 320Gb Seagate drive in my unit, I’m running the 47 version of the firmware on the NAS. It is set up as a network storage with 3 shares.
2 of these shares are mapped onto one of my computers.
I’m using to use the drive for holding music, videos and software.
When copying files to the drive it seems to create a second identical file which is 0 in size. I then delete the 0 file and this deletes the full size file instead. I then recopy the file and it then creates another 0 size file.
However I turn my drive off a lot of the time. When PC is not on and I have not seen any time shift.
Any ideas? I’m gonna try to update to the newer firmware and see if that happens.
NS 347 Manual download
http://www.multicase.de/files/ns347_manual.pdf
Seems like the current firmware doesn’t support MS-CLIENT (MS-DOS) workstations. A great pain, now I can’t use the Landisk to host my Ghost image.
Hi everyone a newer firmware came out the other days:
http://www.x-drivers.com/catalog/bios_firmware/lan_disks/companies/rdc/models/nas-basic/index.html
enjoy.
@Jack – Thank You for pointing us towards the latest firmware :)
Ive flashed it onto my Landisk along with loader 70, do you know what the differences are?
I’ve just tested v49b1.
It doesn’t like streaming video over my network…a WinXP machine.
I have returned to v47b4 and streaming is fine again.
Hi All,
Latest Firmware : V49B2
———————–
Download from :- http://depositfiles.com/files/3725389
Enjoy – Regards Rikski
@Rikski
How dare you use my work without asking permission, even worse, you removed the fact that it was my work from the completed artical!
RIKSKI-NAS v1.0? Not likely! what version is it anyway? Looks like ViperNAS v1.3!
If you had read my site you would have realised that I am more than willing to alter it for anybody.
In fact, I am more than willing to add your ideas to my UI, and give you FULL CREDIT for the fact that they are your ideas… I cant see any trace of it being my work in that interface.
Just FYI, I am a UK user, I just dont use the data on the NAS drive. I am happy to change it. As for allowing hidden shares? Great! Throw me the code and I’ll add it… and GIVE YOU CREDIT!
Get the idea?
Ben
Get the ORIGINAL ViperNas v1.3 (soon to be 1.4) here: http://projects.viperfang.net/vipernas
I tried Rikski’s 49b2 (thanks for uploading). It still has lag/freeze issues on Vista over a lan. BTW RikSki Nas config… isn’t that a bit egostistical? I backported Viperfang’s because I wasn’t happy with that – where did you find 49b2 btw?
Hi guys!
Just a quick yell to tell you that ViperNAS v1.4 is out. get it here:
http://projects.viperfang.net/vipernas
Ben
This release doesn’t have much changed, but I thought it should be uploaded none the less…
ViperNAS v1.5
http://projects.viperfang.net/vipernas
Hi,
i also use a noname LanDisk and upgraded the firmware from NAS-Basic 41 to 47B1, later to 49B1 and then 49B2 with Loader 70. Since i use the Versions 49, my internal clock is too fast, so over night there’s maybe 5 hours later than the actual time.
Though i have set the option that the ntp-time will be updated, it’s still running too fast. When i just click the “save”-Button, the clock will be synchronised. But if i don’t click there, the clock will go wrong… What can i do to get the right time again?
I’m also using ViperNAS which is really smooth.
bye
I’ve just done a review of this unit on my site, great price but unfortunately the performance lags a bit behind other units:
http://www.reviewspring.com/landisk-ns347-nas-a89.php
I’ve mentioned this blog in the review as a source of other information. Once I’ve done some further firmware update testing I’ll also be adding that to the last page.
Hi I have one of these boxes on the latest firmware, everything is fine, but trying to access my drive via Logik IR100 radio, and the radio cant see the drive without my PC being Switched on? Does anyone know why this is? I have been googling for ages and cant find answers.
thanks
Quick yell to say ViperNAS v1.5c is out!
It has one small update to handle anything other than GMT +0 correctly on the homepage.
You can get it from
http://projects.viperfang.net/vipernas/
I have purchased this drive but some of my friends messed around. now i dont know the ip or password for this device. Is there any way to reset it to be able to access it again. And what would it reset to?
Thanks
Surem there is a reset button on the back or the drive.
Thanks for all the cool advice guys, I just have a wee question maybe someone can help with. I just cannot seem to get the ftp server going. I have dyndns up and running no problem, and port forwarding to the LanDisk on my netgear DG632, I have the accounts set up, I get a login screen when I connect, but I cannot get logged in, the login box just blinks and asks for login details again. I don’t want to allow anonymous users as the data is sensitive (a little lol) Has anyone else had issues with this?
Got one of these for £29.99 @ Maplins – put an 80GB Maxtor in, seemed to run ok – using WinXP, Win2k & Fedora Linux to access it – works ok for so long then have to reboot via power switch – irritating. Have got NAS-BASIC49B1, LOADER 69 installed now – will see if this improves things. Thanks for all the hints and help!!
@Ferdia – I had similar a problem to you.
I moved the FTP into DMZ…problem solved.
Thanks Pat,
Even with the nas in the DMZ I still can’t get logged in. Trying a new router this week, will let you know how it goes
Got a Billions router, now working well, thanks Pat
Hey guys, i just purchased a LAN drive from mediacase here
http://www.mediacase.co.uk/
I believe this is the same firmware used, but would like sombody to confirm, as they dont suply any updates.
Although i have just sent the unit back after trying to fit an IDE drive, it now refuses to boot up any drives?
Waiting for return
Oh and just a quick warning do not buy from mediacase.co.uk, as soon as they have your money they want nothing more to do with you, i had to open a paypal dispute just to get a response, and even that was limited and informationless.
Stay away from this joker.
Greetinds friends I purchased a NS-347 S LAN DISK and a 250 GB Western Digital Hard Disk.
I put the hard drive in the Lan Disk but cannot get any of my machines to see the Hard Drive. Does one need to format the disk. I am able to log into the machine and see the menu and set the IP addresses etc. I see there is a format disk function on the menu giving me Fat32 or NXS options. Does one need to format the hard drive if so which option FAT32 or NXS. How lond should it take to format I tried and it seems to take ages.
Please HELP.
Very useful and interesting! I’ve just bought a second of these devices to allow my sisters to have a shared resource on their network. It’s got a 400Gb HDD, and maps to an XP drive with no problems.
But there’s an issue with a Macbook – it reports it’s connected, and it reports the disk size, and I can drag files and folders from the mac to the landisk – where they disappear from the Mac’s view! (The XP pc can see them fine).
I think I messed up the initial “connect to server” from the macbook (finder), allowing it to connect as the mac user, rather than guest. And it seems almost impossible to disconnect from the landisk from the mac finder – the button just doesn’t seem to work! (I’ve enabled file sharing on the XP pc, and the Mac can connect to that properly, see files, and allow me to disconnect at will).
I’m not a Mac expert, but it looks to me like that’s where the main problem may lie.
I’m guessing the landisk has “NAS-BASIC47-B1, LOADER 690″ (same as mine, bought about same time from Maplins), but it’s at my sisters house, not here (helpful, eh?).
Does anyone out there have any experience of this sort of issue and be prepared to point me in the right direction please? (I’m going to e-mail Karl (way above) as he offered!)
Hi ferdia,
Same problem here with FTP on the Landisk.
I solved it by downloading the firmware upgrade which is linked in the article above.
Also, make sure you set the Landisk IP as static to whatever IP address your router is set to send ftp connections to. Also, you have to turn off the Landisk DHCP server if your router handles DHCP.
If you are running vista the firmware upgrade file [filename].bin is seen as a system file and will be invisible, you can quickly get over this by typing *.bin in the search field and selecting from there.
I didn’t have to alter the DMZ setting in my router (livebox) at all.
Debbie
Does anyone have a copy of the Manual?… I obtained one of these, but no manual came with it… Thanks..
Has anyone tried to set the LanDisk up to work via BT’s Home Hub?
I have just bought one of these units and got it working on my lan. I can ftp to it and I have given it a fixed IP address 192.168.1.xx. I can ping it. What I can’t do though is map a drive to it. The only way I have been able to get any where close was to map a drive to \\192.168.1.xx\test (folder exists on drive and is not password protected) I am then asked for user id and password. Whatever I enter here nothing admin/admin etc doesn’t allow me to access the drive. I can’t access it by http://storage either as this takes me off to storage.com.
Anyone got any bright ideas?
TIA
Colin
Hi There, Hopefully someone with a little more knowledge can help here…… Can the NS-347 run Twonky? (If so, what firmware/file name) It has been asked above but remains unanswered. I’ve upgraded my Xbox/XBMC which worked perfectly with my Nas and now my 360 will not play. Any help wold be appreciated.
There are my webinterfaces for landisk. English version: http://pecus.pigwa.net/pliki/landisk/webinterfaces/welland_eng.web , and polish: http://pecus.pigwa.net/pliki/landisk/webinterfaces/welland_pl.web .
Colin:
http://silentdevelopment.blogspot.com/2008/02/landisk-vipernas-password-protected.html
Ben
Thanks for the link unfortunately it still doesn’t help I still cannot map this as a network drive following the information at that link. I am glad I didn’t waste a lot of money on it.
I bought one of these 2 or 3 months ago when they were on special offer and it has worked with very little problem since. In the early days, I had to reboot a couple of times but not for ages.
I don’t use it lot but it keeps its time and maps OK. I have NAS-BASIC47-B1, LOADER 69.
External ftp access via my (spit) Orange Livebox is the next project. Then I’ll install Novell’s netdrive on my remote PCs and I can map from anywhere..
Wish me luck.
Rgrds
Peter
Peter
Thanks for that little comment about Netdrive, I have downloaded it and installed it and it works really well. As it is mapped to the ftp service it is really fast so worth considering if Samba is too slow.
Thanks again
Colin
I’ve found a workaround for the poor performance of the Samba implementation on these drives – it isn’t a fix but it is better:
http://silentdevelopment.blogspot.com/2008/05/maplin-landisk-performance-fix.html
Colin: try replacing the “storage\admin” part of the user name for the SMB authentication with your IP address, e.g. “192.168.0.5\admin” and keep the password simple, short and lowercase just for testing. I have to admit the last time I used SMB it took about 10 attempts to accept the credentials (bizarrely Windows “forgot” them), and only then after the drive had spun up (I connected and disconnected via FTP first). You may prefer just to use the performance solution I mention above.
Ben
Thanks for the suggestions. Netdrive seems to do the same things as the FTPdrive that you mention. It’s working now and given the Samba performance with this chip set I think I will stick with what I currently have (if it ain’t broke don’t fix it!!), Thank you anyway.
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Tom
Posted February 12, 2008 at 11:55 pm | Permalink
NS 347 Manual download
http://www.multicase.de/files/ns347_manual.pdf
The link to the manual above doesn’t work, try this one instead
http://www.multicase.de/en/download/ns347/ns347_manual.pdf
I don’t have the original power supply, please could someone have a look at their power supply and tell me how many amps or milliamps it is. It is probably 500mA or 1A
Thanks
Chris
Don’t you wish it is a 3.5″ drive. I checked mine and it is 2amp.
Colin:
I did try Netdrive but unfortunately it doesn’t work with Vista. After some fudging of the installer I also got the “Red Drive” app which does the same thing working on Vista but found that ftpdrive was faster.
If you find anything faster for Vista please tell me :)
Colin:
thanks. I just tested it, it won’t spin up with a 500mA power supply but it seems fine with 1A. It only works on USB though, lan won’t respond but I don’t think it’s a power issue.
Hey guys,
had this box for a while now (v48 loader 69)… SMB is fine through my wireless router, but FTP i a real pain – i can only get read only. I access it from outside using DynDNS… authentication is fine but i can’t write anything… Read/Write is enables in FTP settings.
Cheers,
Jon
Does anyone have a datasheet for the RDC2882 or know where one could be found?
Related to the above I suspect that there are versions that are running different clock speeds, i.e. 100Mhz & 125Mhz, which might also explain why some people see the clock run very slow/fast depending on which firmware image they are using.
FWIW, seems like these are for sale on ebay Germany for reasonably nice prices (auctions closing out around 20€ + postage to EU countries 15-20€). The enclosure has a Mac Mini look and does also have a built in fan.
FTP Working!!!
I’m using WinSCP FTP Client… working like a dream… so far ;)
I hope someone can give me some advice:
I’ve set up this device and connected a harddrive (formatted to FAT32) and I’ve made the adjustments through the setup webpage as well… (with both FTP and SMB shares..)
I can see the folders on the HDD listed inside the configuration pages…and I’ve added some of them to be shared. teh problem is when I connect to the enclosure throught hte LAN it is only showing me a few of the files actually contained in the shared folder!
The exact problem is replicated thorught the FTP sharing.
Using USB I can see all the files inside these folders on the hard disk…
So why is this enclosure listing only some of the files over the network?
thx
hello all,
i purchased a NAS simply bcoz it did two things :-
1st It allowed me to store a lot of information in one central location without the need for a computer to switched on.
2nd It allowed both remote access of files & remote control of the system from anywhere there was a internet connection I could access.
But, like almost everyone there are “issues” about how it’s done… Several blogs made mention to different issues that had to be address, but no one seemed to describe a fully functional over the internet file access, read write how it’s done guide…
Well, for those who want to know, it is totally possible, it’s also very reliable, very good, & indeed, it’s fairly secure, or at least as secure as your password & general “at home” network.
Whilst I’ve already written a guide, it’s more for my understanding, but if there are enough queries to this blog, then i’ll clean up the guide & publish it on my own site, & place a link here once it’s complete.
Regardless, I must say thank you to several blogs on here that allowed me the knowledge to understand how to do it… Thank you!…
Regards, John.
John, I would like to see your guide as it is something I would like to explore but haven’t had the time to delve into at the moment. If it is only me who is interested I will take the notes “as is”.
Thanks for the offer
Colin
Hi Colin,
Many thanks for the request, I hope you’ll find my notes of some assistance, and whilst (so far) you are the only person to request it, I totally understand the need to have some notes to refer too with this device.
If you could leave me a little feedback on this site if you get time, it would be appreciated & may help others. Unless of course it’s bad, in which case, sorry my notes were of little help to you.
The notes are located at my site in pdf format at.
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/maffysdad/computers/d/NAS_Guide_v1_290508024730.pdf
Many thanks,
John.
John
Thanks for the tutorial, it is clear and concise and it was good to read it as I thought that is the way it should work but with this unit nothing is a given. I have tried it out and as I am typing this my son in the UK is uploading some of his wedding photos to me in Spain.
Thanks again
Colin
Hi Colin,
Many thanks for the positive feedback (yes i use a certain buyin/sellin site), but it’s always a relief to hear when a guide that quite complex is understood & considered clear & concise, especially when it’s still in it’s draft format.
What’s especially nice to hear is that you’ve tried, tested & found the guide helped you to get working a device that even the makers don’t appear to have a guide for, & that it’s already been of help to you & your family. So if you’re the only one who’ll ever download, read & use it, then hell, I’m happy!!!… lol!…
Like myself, you’ve found the device does work as you expect, it was just getting over those teething problems that made it seem more of a hassle then a bonus, but I’ve found, now that it’s functioning as i expect, it really is a serious bonus & comes into it’s own for many things that will now seem just to long winded to do via email. Just be aware of any download limits that may be in place when you, or it, is accessed remotely.
Regards,
John.
John
Thanks for the warning but no problem as far as we are concerned we both have unlimited bandwidth with our respective ISP’s. :-))
Colin
Hi Guys,
Need you help.
I have been using this device for over a month with ONE basic problem.
The device suddenly dissapears and in the router it say device disconnected.
The LANDISK is connected to the router (speedtouch).
The only way to get it backonline is turn off for 5 minutes and then back on…
The model is NAS-BASIC47-B1, LOADER 69
– NS347
please help
thanks sarathi
with regards to the 4GB limit, if you are using the NAS as a media server for movies and want to put DVD size movies onto the landisk one way round it is to use DVD shrink to remove any unwanted languages and other unecessary features from the DVD. You also have other features in dvd shrink that allows you to reduce the size of the dvd by adjusting compression settings etc. once this is done your file should be under 4GB and you can copy it to the LANDISK :-)
I bought myself one at Maplin … they’re GBP29 now, can’t wait to test it.
I’ve been using the maplin landisk since christmas and am generally pleased with it. however…. I normally use linux from my laptop connected wirelessly to the lan. I connect using the samba root rather than ftp. The NAS is directly connected to the modem/router via the network port.
I can access the NAS perfectly from my laptop SO LONG AS A WINDOWS MACHINE IS CONNECTED TO THE NETWORK. If no windows machine is conneted, my laptop can not see the box (although I can still connect to the config/admin screen by typing in the url).
Any ideas
Thanks
Geoff
Geoff:
Check to see if the Windows machine is polling the network asking for shares (which it would show in network places). The Samba implementation may not be doing this (or possibly firewall blocked), although you still might be able to connect it “blind” if you know the IP address and share name. This is just a guess btw!
first a question and the an answer to an earlier one.
Am I correct in reading this blog, I understand that lots of different NAS machines use the same firmware because of the RDC2882 chip and this can be downloaded from sites such as “http://www.station-drivers.com/page/landisk.htm” There are three parts that can upgraded the loader v0.70, the firmware V49b2, and the interface viper 1.5b are the latest.
Thanks for your feedback.
Now the answer
I have noticed with win xp if your user account logon password is the same as your Nas folder password, you will get automatically logged on to your NAS folder. This open up lots of possibilities for different users on one PC having their own NAS folders, ie my documents etc
Cheers
I’m now trying to mount the drive from SuSE Linux and it fails when I try SMB. Has anyone managed an NFS mount?
I guess I might need new firmware (I’m on NAS-BASIC47-B1, LOADER 69) but all the links I can find seem to be broken. Does anyone have a valid current link??
Rgrds
Peter
Great forum!
Has anyone been able to sort out the problem when drive goes to sleep then doesnt seem to wakeup, unless you reboot, and also the drive get quite hot!
I have the R2882 chip with NAS-BASIC48, LOADER 69.
Regards
Tony
I bought 2 of the LanDisk enclosures and put a 400GB samsung IDE drive in each of them. One is named ‘Landisk’ the other ‘Landisk2′, and I have seperate maps in Windows.
However, when I copy a file over to N:\ (mapped to Landisk) it also appears in O:\ (Landisk2)! This is also the same if I just go to \\landisk or \\landisk2 – any idea why this is happenning and how I can stop it?
The DHCP is off on both of them, one is 192.168.0.1 and the other 192.168.0.2
Correct, one is 192.168.0.9 and the other .10
Tonymak
I have found the problem appears to be connected with file/directory names. The machine seems to go hunting and spins the drive looking for something it cannot find. hence getting hot, and the only way to stop t is to cycle the power. Not Good. To solve this I am careful to use WIN98ish names and not deep directory paths.
Anyone else found this?
Chris
Keith
I have noticed the NAS does not check the full name, in my case a password. Try completely different names mydisk hisdisk
Chris
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BUG? — INTERACTION BETWEEN N.A.S. AND LINUX SAMBA CLIENT
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I’ve been trying to use the following (ex-Maplin) Network attached storage on a mixed windows (XP, millenium & 95) and linux (Puppy linux 2.16, with Samba 3.04) network, using the samba shares on the NAS. The NAS is the [3.5" mobile landisk souced via maplin, presumably from a-tecsubsystem.com] that was available from Maplin until early 2008.
The bugs are not apparent under the following conditions:
windows client (even if with cygwin), NAS server
windows client, windows server
linux samba client, windows server
From Puppy linux, however, samba mounted shares on the NAS have a few disturbing bugs that do not occur if shares are sourced by windows machines:
1) MODIFICATION FILESTAMP INCREMENTS ON FILE OPEN.
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The file’s ‘when modified’ hour timestamp increments on (almost) every file open operation even for read access. On one or two occasions this has occurred on successive directory listings without intervening file openings.
2) FILESIZE NOT UPDATED.
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The filesize does not update when a large file is replaced by a smaller one of the same name, unless one first deletes the larger one.
3) FILE CORRUPTION.
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The results of the unix ‘stat’ command (run either through the network on the samba share or through the USB) indicate that too few blocks are allocated for the filesize, if item (2) occurs on larger files with multiple blocks allocated. This causes filechecking systems e.g. chkdsk.vfat (run when the disk is USB connected rather than through the network) to report errors that need correction, and the relevant files are visible to the directory command ls, but the files cannot be opened to read their contents.
These errors prevent me from creating intelligent back-ups from the device by using one of my computers, since the modification date/timestamp is mangled, and the file data can be mangled if I edit any of the files stored on the common NAS device from my linux.
I’ve updated the NAS firmware, (to NAS-BASIC45, LOADER 69) but without change to this bug. I’ve also searched some samba archives for mention of the interaction, without result so far.
Has anyone else had this problem? Is there any known cure? Am I doing something silly?
Regards from
Rod Smith
Just bought one of these. Mine came from Aria. Works fine, though FTP seems a little flacky with long directory names.
Might try upgrading firmware.
Has anyone attempted to identify which wire from the connector is the one to that damned bright LED so I can cut it ?
For what it’s worth I bought one a couple of weeks ago in hopes of removing my NOISY files server and using this box as file server for my laptop. Worked fine for about a week and now loses data on a frequent basis. Reboot of drive shows data still there but I fear a BIG problem coming when I go to write to a vanished data file. I’m removing the thing from my network and returning to a NOISY PC.
Just bought a LANDISK from CCL computers, and after several hours, have managed to get vista to recognise it, HURRAY!!!!
installed V48b6 + Bootloader 0.69 for Pleiades device AND IT WORKS IN VISTA!! YIPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
for under ?20 + del too!!!!!
HELP !!
I have an Atec NS347S with IC ST9104 and rom version V01R04.
I upgraded to this version from V01R03.
The sad news is that it’s worse now. At least with the old version I could specify ftp users and their shares etc., this version sucks.
On top of it all this isn’t a NAS device at all. What a load of crap actually.
I would just like to know if anybody can recommend or knows of a better rom version or a custom rom that I could replace the existing one with.
Seems such a pity about the firmware ‘cos the device and concept is fantastic .. but just so limited by the firmware GRRRRR.
Would appreciate any help.
Oh one last thing does anyone know if the viper stuff works on here and also the basic loader like V49b2 + Bootloader 0.69.
Looking forward to any replies …
Thanks guys
Hi Please help have just got a mobile landisk from maplins, have it working on the network and can map a drive to it, but when I plug it into the USB port will not work just coming up with problem with the hardware, have any of you seen this before and if so how if you have fix it.
Thanks
Afternoon folks,
I’ve just bought a Landisk (NS347) from Maplin, and have a couple of minor issues I’d like your thoughts on:
1. Connecting to a Vista PC via USB, it detects but doesn’t show up in “My Computer”. Looking at earlier posts it appears to be a Master/Slave issue, I’ll give that a go this evening.
2. SMB shares (view on Vista), I’ve password protected a folder, but when I navigate to it through network neighbourhood it asks for a username. I’ve seen “Landisk” and “IP\admin” suggested, and a reg fix to to with NTLM. Something else for this evening…
3. Slow write speeds ~1MB/s (read untested).
Cheers,
Stu
Hey,
Just to respond to myself…
1. It was a Master/Slave issue. For USB access to work the hard drive must be set to Master.
2. To access a password protected SMB share the username required is “Workgroup\Storage”.
3. I get quick transfers through USB 2.0 (as you’d expect). I still seem to get slow network write speeds (1MB/s), not too much of a problem at the moment, but I don’t have the latest firmware installed yet.
Hope that helps any others with similar problems.
Stu
Hi,
Just spent *too* long setting this up, only to realise my ZoneAlarm Firewall was blocking my SMB connection to it!
Just in case anyone else gets the same trouble, add the default IP address to your Trusted zone.
Cheers
Alex
Stuart – have a look at a performance workaround that mighht work for you:
http://silentdevelopment.blogspot.com/2008/05/maplin-landisk-performance-fix.html
Just bought today from Maplin and “updated” firmware to that on Maplin’s WebSite. However, it appears to have uplaoded an older verion. Original was “NAS-BASIC47-B1, LOADER 69″ and now it has “NAS-BASIC45, LOADER 69″ from Maplin – so beware I guess.
Anyhoo I went ahead and uploaded version “NAS-BASIC48, LOADER 69″ from http://www.station-drivers.com/page/landisk.htm. No HDD in there yet but will test over the weekend.
Anyone any advice on which Firmware to actually use with this device. I want to use with XP and vista remotely.
I just bought it since it was cheap and is an introduction to net storage (a learning purchase).
Anyways – very good blog this – keep it up – I’ll scroll up the page and read a bit more.
cheers,
Hi, this is a great post. I bought one of these and initially it worked on my network. I found a spare hard drive, set to master and put it altogether. I managed to note the ip address and mac address before attempting to format the disk (which from memory was not seen on the status page). That was as far as I got. It hung and stopped working. My network initially found the device as a DHCP and once I acknowledge the device, turned into static. In the carnage that followed I managed to muck up my wireless network trying to get the ip address back. Cutting a long story short, I have a Landisk that cannot be seen on my network, cannot be seen on my laptop connected directly nor will work on USB. I have found a lot of information on this device and tried a few things but to no avail. I was concerned at a comment with regards holding down the reset button for more than 5 seconds, I must have counted to 60 before releasing it, not that it had any effect whatsoever. I quickly came to the conclusion it was broke and have reported it but have tried in the meantime to get it going (kind of a challenge now!). Everything else with my network seems fine and I have refamiliarized myself with a network that has worked for months until now. Can anyone help me to discover if it’s stuffed or has it had a wobbly and can be retrieved. I did try MT utility, but it simply cannot find the unit.
Plugged into the laptop, the network settings report connection and packets being sent, but nothing is being returned. That was using the default ip address. My laptop was set to obtain ip automatically assuming the landisk was reset to default conditions.
What does the 3 parts of the landisk firmware do. Is the bootloader equivilent to a BIOS, the software equivilent to the web interface etc?.
Hope somebody can help. Of course this is only to satisfy my quest to get the better of it.
Thanks
Pike
Just to add another little twist. I managed (how I dunno) to get the usb to work, something it refused to even acknowledge. I can access the disk read/write and at some stage using the quick-update too manage to get the lan disk to respond. It found the landisk very quickly and told me the address was 169.254.0.1 with R2882 V 0.6.9. Thinking I was getting somewhere I tried the new firmware. After this, I discovered the usb was working but the landisk refuses to be ping’d. Now I’m really getting spinters!!
I wonder if there is a way to update the firmware via USB??
Hi Pike,
I *think* that address in the 169 range are automatic private ones. In other words, you haven’t specified an IP address and it cannot contact a DHCP server. So either specify a fixed IP, or plug it in to a LAN that has a DHCP server i.e. an ADSL router.
Using a 3rd party DHCP server, you should be able to view the DHCP address allocations to figure out your Landisk’s IP address.
Hope that helps,
Stu
Interesting Stuart. My server must be DHCP as it allocated ip addresses to my various computers, Nintendo Wii, printer and laptop. All I had to do was tell my adsl all-in-one modem to reserve. It then made each item a static address. I’m guessing the 1st time the lan disk was connected my router found it, I reserved it and then it allocated a ip address of 192.268.1.2; That said, since trying the format it has not been seen since which is why I decided to just connect it to the laptop direct (and it’s also easier to work on, modem/router hidden under tv cupboard with printer). I did once see the landisk on the laptop having set the computer’s ip address to 169.254.0.1; I then managed a update to the landisk, confident everything was up and running I tried accessing it via browser but it didn’t. I then discovered the USB worked?. OK, it now works with USB. one step forward, 10 back!!. If I set the laptop to get obtain ip address automatically ie it’s connected to a DHCP router that allocates addresses, connected to the lan disk, it sits there forever which for me indicates the landisk is set to static address. The challenge continues but I’m more and more convinced it’s broke. I found the updated firmware was similar size to the one found on the maplin site so I fairly happy I have upgraded the firware with the correct program. It’s effect was to stop the ping-ability of the landisk but made the usb port work. Confusing!!
Hey,
Very quirky. A few things I would try:
1. Disconnect or switch off anything that uses the network except a single PC and the Landisk. Switch off the router, PC & LD. Switch the router on, then the PC & LD and check the DHCP allocations.
2. USB over-rides network on the LD, you have to switch it off and on to let the network pick up again.
Server and Router? Tell me more.
Stu
Hello Pike.
I too “lost” the IP setting of the Landisk while I was trying to set it up. I was playing around with static IP’s and forgot what I put in there when I connected it to my router.
Anyways – don’t know if it applies to you buy – to find that out I just connected the Landisk directly to my laptop via network cable and told my laptop to renew it’s IP settings. Then it saw the Landisk as the network and the address was shown on my connection status on the laptop. (I had to disconnect laptop wireless card first so it wouldn’t connect to my router).
Anyways – Landisk seems reasonable and I have it running alongside another server on the home network. (I have a networked DVR cctv) and can happily access both Landisk and the Dvr servers.
If you bon’t have a fixed IP address then just head to dyndns.org and you can get a free server address – I’ve done this for over a year now and things are simpler accessing my network from oversees since the server address never changes as the IP address does.
Guys i have one of these going spare, used it once…. i can update to the latest firmware.
Either with a 300gb drive (warranty until 2010) or without…. thought i would offer it to guys who like them first :)
Hi Stu, GramUK.
I made things as easy as possible by using the laptop with the landisk and spent most of the Sunday getting it going. I once had it respond to a ping having used some of the utils mentioned above to upgrade the firmware. It happily responded but I couldn’t access the web user interface however I discovered the USB now worked. Anyway, it is now been replaced and this one has got a nice new 500Gb drive fitted. The firmware on this one is basic47-B1 with loader 69. I’m a bit afraid of uploading anything to it. The usb on this one works fine as does the web interface. I’m interested in the fixed IP address but not sure how that works. I’m connected to my ISP continuously but would loose my IP address if I were “renewed” ie got disconnected, whereby my router would re-connect automatically but I’d have another ip address. Having set this landisk up to be used anywhere sods law it wouldn’t work due to a reconnection, so I’m going to have a look at this dyndns.org. Thanks for that. just out of interest, is anyone running my version of firmware, is it the latest? and what advantages would I gain in updating it.
Pike
PROBLEMS WITH DESTROYING DIRECTORY STRUCTURE WITH 40,000 DIRECTORIES
Just had a lot of fun with one of the MAPLIN LanDisks version 47/69 software (since upgraded to V48/69). I have three of these that I use in a storage hierarchy for offsite backup behind a firewall (a real brick and half hour fire door version).
I hammer these disks every night with FTPSYNCHRONISER / ROBOCOPY (windows RK utility) backup scripts from a server in Docklands over IPSEC tunnels, with a directory structure of some 1300 directories and 6000-7000 files for each day of the month, and then locally advance the copies every day at 10.00 to avoid network traffic for unchanged files.
Other scripts do consistency checks and the copies show 100% consistency with no errors. I also use them to handle 1GB backup files from BackupExec, again as part of a storage hierarchy. Excellent little devices these!
All works fine… until …
… when I came to change the backup regime and delete the directory tree: I had problems with it not deleting directories (remember there are 40,000 directories). I first ran into the empty directory issue – above – so deleted all the files so the directories were empty; then I found that none of the microsoft GUI or command line tools would reliably delete the directories.
In the end I had to write a script and run this repeatedly (about 10 times), and it progressively managed to delete more and more directories every time until none were left. I could not spot any obvious pattern with which directories were deleted on each run and which failed.
I would attach the CMD script if I could, but this is what it did:
(1) list the directories into a text file
(2) use FIND to number the lines in the text file
(3) reverse the list using SORT
(4) RMDIR to remove the directory entries one by one
(4) then do a TREE of what was left for curiosity
Hi Roger,
You clearly know a lot more about this game than me but, just wondering: Are you trying to run your scripts against the Landisk connected via USB or LAN?
Probably can’t help but I’m curious :)
Stu
Hi
Please can you help me with a foolish problem, doubtless of my own
making. I bought one of these some while ago and great it has been.
I set it up easily and it worked a treat. Tthen I installed a new
router and the Landisk vanished. I ping 169.254.0.1 and no packets
return.
My great mistake was to scan and shred the setup instructions, storing
them on the Landisk! Bozo of the week award eh?
Is there anything I can do to get it going again? Sorry to be a prat.
Hi Jem,
The 169 range is an automatic private address used when a DHCP server could not be contacted. I suspect that there is a problem with your new router’s DHCP server.
Try using your old router to assign an address to your Landisk, and then change the settings in the Landisk to a fixed IP address (and write it down :p )
Hope that helps,
Stu
Me again,
Thinking about it, I think I’ve got that the wrong way around…
Your new router has probably automatically assigned an IP address to the Landisk.
Have a look in Network Neighbourhood for the Landisk’s name, and then use the name in internet explorer to log-in.
You could also “ping LANDISK_NAME” in a command prompt to find the new IP address.
Stu
hi i have one of these and i was wondering how i can see the drive on my ps3? connection is by netgear router rj45 on both items
@Leigh,
The PS3 would need to support Server Message Block (SMB) – I’m doubtful it would – perhaps an owner of a PS3 can confirm.
Surely somebody has made mod’d firmware for this to support upnp or even better ftp performance?
there hasnt been a firmware update since the 2/2/08
Hello, thanks for all those helpful comments above. I have the Sitecom MD-250 which uses the Basic 47 firmware. I had the same sleep/freeze issues mentioned above with a 500GB Seagate. I have ended up replacing it with a 250GB instead which resumes fine from sleep. Odd behaviour but could be size related I guess? Annoying too that there’s little support available from the chipset maker too :(
I’m uing BASIC 49B1 and LOADER 69, with the Viper web interface. It’s quite stable and reliable now. But still very slow. With regard to working with a PS3, I’m sorry to say it doesn’t. It needs to support uPnP for this, and must also be configured as a media server, not just an SMB server.
Don’t blame it for “not working” with your PS3. If you really want it, get something that supports it, rather than assuming everything should. SMB is good and simple, although this unit only supports basic SMB authentication.
The slow performance is because of the chipset, its an old/cheap one hence why its slow. That is why other units are terribly expensive, although they are not exactly that much better speed wise.
Would be nice if we could have read-only shares, is this actually possible?
It’s a no to read only shares unless you care to use ftp. This is with Basic 49B2 Loader 70. Don’t see why it’s not possible. Maybe someone could add the feature ?
Hi All
Any one know which site i can update to the new firmware??
Thanks
My NS347 has worked fine for more than 2 years. Yes, I do have the time drift problem – I am on NAS-BASIC48, LOADER 67 – but the spin-down works without any problem. I run over ethernet, never having tried the USB side.
The drive is mainly used for media which I play whilst sitting at my PC, but I recently purchased a zyxel DMA-1100P media player which requires that I run DIXIM Media Server software and that I specifically identify the folders the media player should be able to access…. and I cannot persuade the DIXIM software to “see” the folders I have on the landisk.
Uing the SMB menu, I have tried sharing the root and the specific folders containing media files, with and without passwords.
Anyone have any thoughts or, even better, solutions?
Thanks
Chris,
Having a bit of a guess here but I suspect that your media player doesn’t actually talk to SMB, hence requiring its own “Dixim Media Server” to send the media out.
I thin you’ll be stuck with using a Windows machine as a server.
Stu
I Posted on May 27, 2008 at 5:58 pm after happily getting the NS-347 up and running on a Phillips modem/wireless router, well, the Phillips has gone tits up, and I’m reluctantly forced to use a Netgear DG834GT (it was a Sky (puke) wireless box that’s now been re-flashed wif Netgear’s latest firmware.
Now I’m totally Stuck!…
I can access the NAS directly via RJ45
I can access the NAS via the DG834GT
I can NOT access the NAS via FTP (which is what I could do before having to replace the modem/router.
The NAS has a static IP and the DCHP is turned off on the NAS.
I have also placed the static IP of the NAS in the DMZ of the router.
I am (always have) used the DYNDNS.org feature.
But when I try to access the NAS from an outside location nothing shows up, I’ve tried IE7, SmartFTP, FileZilla, the works. I’m really, really stuck!…
I am confident the problem lies with the DG834GT, since if I switch back to the old phillips modem/wireless router there isn’t a problem. It’s the Netgear rubbish…
Does ANYONE know how I can get around this, am I missing something, are there certain settings?… I’m aware these stupid DG834GT things hav issues, but any help would be greatfully appreciated!…
I am confident the problem
Hi
I posted, just above on March 9, 2009 at 8:08 am a mention that it was a pain in the backside to get working with Netgear DG834GT… Wot a pain it is too!!!…
A few firmware upgrades later on the DG834GT and I’ve happily got it working… Appears it is something Sky programmed into it with their “personalised” firmware (swears and curses Sky!) prior to my getting my hands on it…
I’m on Tiscali (which used to be a wonderful service, but is now something I wudn’t bother scraping of the bottom of my shoe), and since their upgrade at the local telephone exchange in May 2008, my BB speed has decreased from 4.3MB to 2.5MB (if I’m lucky!), and yet they can’t explain why???… I can, but choose to keep my language on here pretty clean!…
If your ISP is SKY, and your using a Sky DG834GT wireless router (white box one with Netgear on it) don’t flash the firmware since if you notice in it’s settings, it doesn’t display your username or password. It’s also against their T&C’s to alter it, BUT… the firmware is based around Lynx (linx) however you wanna spell or say it, bottom line is the firmware is written using public domain software.
Anyway, just wanted to say that I’ve got it working, but if you are a Sky customer (why?) and you need to use a NAS system, that you need to contact Sky and inform them that the firmware is public domain, you only lease the ISP/server use from them, so whilst you will continue to use “their” box, you want the firmware altered so as to allow your NAS system to work. Don’t be surprised if they ask for the NAS MAC code and just “add” it to the “allow” system at THEIR end rather then give you your username and password. But a hunt on the net will give you the username (MAC code @ sky… sumfin), so you really only need the password & your aware with the fairies!…
But if they are not allowing you the full service use (eg, if the firmware is faulty and not letting the NAS work, or PS3, XBox360 or anything else), then you can (in the UK) claim for a refund on grounds simulair to those of the service they offer doesn’t do what it says on the box… after all, the proper DG834GT allows NAS, but their firmware doesn’t appear to allow it… Well, that may help someone…
Have fun!.
Me again…
I take it back… it’s STILL not working!… Open to any and all ideas on how to get this working, I know it’s down to the DG834GT. Unless someone suggests a reliable fix soon I’ll be throwing this ex sky wireless out the window!…
Thanks!
I have an NAS Prestigio Net-Drive,hdd WDC fat 32 formatted with latest vista firmware from manufacturer website and win vista.
My problem is; when I power off the NAS and back on again the web interface says “disk not found”. If I Reboot and Restart from web interface NAS found again hdd, but when the power is off the problem reappear.
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks in advance!
Liviu
Hi.
I’m on NAS-Basic48, Loader 67 and I installed a new 500GB IDE HD (WD). It is formatted as MSDos FAT32. The Landisk cannot work with it via IP, SMB or FTP. If I connect via USB all works fine. The Landisk statur-menu can’t show free size or total size. The disk ID is:
IDE[0] Master, Model=[WDC W@5000A@KB-00H8A0]
I can’t create folders in SMB oder FTP.
Is the HD size limited?
Spockdog
I bought a Mobile Landisk from Maplin and popped a Seagate drive in. I can access the drive no probs from 2 pc’s hard wired into my Netgear wireless router. However, I have tried everything and still cannot get my wireless laptop to even ‘see’ the drive in the Network window. I can access the maintenance page no bother and have disabled DHCP on the drive. Have tried static IP etc but nothing will make the wireless laptop see it! Any idea’s greatly appreciated! Cheers
Landisk’s available from ebuyer as quick find item #160919 for ?9.99, total ?15.97 delivered
http://www.ebuyer.com/
I had my NAS disk crasch last week. the Harddrive crasched. I used “Getdataback” to restore my files. 99% was retreivable!
It took a long time(2days) to restore the data. I connected the IDE HD through USB connection and then the transfer rate is slow.
/T
these are cool i have one, though i removed all the blue LED’s because they were very bright..
Wow! Thanks for this blog. I just couldn’t get my Vista laptop to work with the LanDisk – now fixed.
I wanted to offer my simple case mod for the LED’s.
Unscrew the front plate, stick a post-it note on the rear (where the LED’s show through – folded double works best), screw the plate back on. Voila! LED’s with a pleasant and bearable glow.
I have had no real problems with mine. Its all about config and waiting for your system to recognise it.
I use the router to identify what the address is and then make sure i address that in my internet explorer.
I took all passwords off to start with and later reinstigated them after i knew i could connect.
Its hardwired into the lan pirt on my billion wireless router 7404vgp
I have set up asscess to it wirelessly for other PC’s in the house.
Inbuilt BitTorrent software works also but is much slower than when i connect to utorrent via my PC (re a fouth of the speed. This may be a bittorrent issue, i thought?)
Blue led does not stay on all the time, only on when accessing the drive – so i am not sure what is going on with everybody.
Firmware version V01R03,
Platform Win XP service pack 2, FAT32
Drive 400gb
Thanks for the info
Reset Landisk Password
======================
I forgot the landisk password after changing it from admin. I spent ages trying to findout how to get into it then just tried something:
switch off the drive
press the reset button on the circuit board inside the unit. Holding the reset button down, power up the drive. I held the button down for 30 seconds but I don’t know if that length of time was necessary. Type in the ip address of the home page, enter admin and admin and I was in!
However, this drive is particulalry poor. Keeps losing a connection when transferring files via USB and LAN so it can’t be relied on for regular use – i’ll use it as a backup drive. I found the freecom 1Tb drive to be much better but it too has its limitations (no passwording of directories, no very large files) but it is easy to use and reliable.
Hi,
i’m using a LANDISK already a few years and updated it to NASbasic 49B2 and Loader 70. Since i’ve updated my Macs here up to SnowLeopard (Mac OS X 10.6.1), i can’t write files to the Landisk anymore. though i can still write files to another Samba based Linux Machine, which is already over 10 years old. Also the Samba-Version of the Linux-Computer is quite old, but it’s working.
The files i’ve putted onto the Landisk are there and i can copy them to my local Mac. I can also connect to the Samba-Shares, still not writing there.
Is the NAS-Basic still developed? Or can i throw the Landisk into trash now? FTP is still working fine, i just can’t use FTP for sensitive Data in internal network, because i’m using it from external over Internet. Passwords are hacked quickly, once i open the sensitive shares for FTP-usage.
Jan
I use a NSUF 10100F Safecom NAS box and had the same problem as Tony
http://icablog.org/2007/01/landisk-network-drives/#comment-12695
IT WORKS
Brilliant – I had not been able to use my disk on my LAN for years now.
Thankyou Very Much
Easy to install and it worked as soon as I added a 250 gig HD
setup was cake. I would recogmend this to anyone who want cheap and fast NAS
box. I wish they made a gigabit version.
NAS-BASIC48, LOADER 69
Win XP, Win7
Had to empty a 120Gb hdd from the NAS. After all data was moved to another disc, the enclosure was extremly hot – too hot to touch!
I turned off the unit but later when I wanted to see status of the unit it was completely dead. Both hdd and enclosure. Bothe testet with other devices but with no luck.
My second NAS is running fine but then again I’m not tormenting it :-)
Is there Windows 7 firmware for this yet?
@Alex yes I would like to know that as well…any new firmware yet?
eBay this badboy from china much cheaper
cheers
great ftp server
I got mine connected to to a Fritz!Box by USB as the LAN Interface is too slow for big files and my Fritz!Box solves that problem. But now I have recognized that the disk wont go to sleep and a little noise is always hearable?
Did somebody figure how to us Sleep while on USB connected
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For anyone still reading this and wanting the SMB function to work properly there are three “workarounds”.
1) Install FTPDrive ( http://www.killprog.com/fdrve.html ), disable the SMB function on the landisk and use FTPDrive to map the FTP function of the drive to a Windows drive letter (note that this may involve a lot of fiddling about with FTPDrive advanced settings like timeouts/retry attempts etc).
2) Give up, use the FTP function – it’s faster too. I used the Filezilla client for quite some time ( http://filezilla-project.org/ )
3) If you have the Landisk attached to an ADSL router buy a router that has a USB storage option. I recommend the Netgear DGND3300v2 – not DGND3500 which I hear has problems. I have the DGND3300v2, and added the Landisk (using 250GB hd) as a USB drive to the router and now get a solid reliable download throughput of 2-2.5 MByte/s. This basically avoids using the SMB capabilities of the drive itself and tells the router to behave like a (slow) PC with a USB drive attached shared on the network. Note I don’t know if this drive is compatible with other brands/types of routers.
Hope this helps someone.
This is a great resource, I picked up one of these generic boxes yesterday and am pleased.
But one question, do you update the bootloader via the web interface?
I’ve managed to update the firmware, but the bootloader always stays on V69.
The ViperNAS interface is great as well. Many thanks.
Tony.
Just Regarding — Comment from JIMPosted September 4, 2009 at 9:04 pm above:
JIM mentions :
……”Firmware version V01R03,
Platform Win XP service pack 2, FAT32
Drive 400gb….”
Q1 What is Firmware version V01R03, it only reference this to a AGESTAR NAS, I am confused, does that firmware possibly work on this type of NAS drive too???? ANYONE!!
If you are struggling to make NS-347 work with Windows 7, read on:
First use the Vista tip by Michael Foster (search for his posting on this page, dated 25th Jan 2007) to change LAN Manager authentication level.
You’ll probably be unable to browse the NAS folder name (share), so type the full path in to Windows Explorer e.g: \\192.168.1.100\
(Note instead of type the name of the folder you are trying to access)
When the Windows Security box pops up, for “User name” enter the address ONLY, e.g. \\192.168.1.100 and for “Password” enter the folder password.
Windows 7 seems quite finicky and sometimes when trying to re-browse a previously successful folder, logon can fail.
In this case try entering \guest\ and password to get back in.
No doubt the cause is Windows 7 beefed up security model, which the NS-347 was not designed for.
Alternatively, option 3 suggested by Benjamin of plugging the NAS in to the USB port of a supported router is probably the easiest method. The O2 Broadband Box IV supports external USB devices in this way.
Lastly, this technique also works on the ATMT HD-363N NAS (bought in my local Maplin shop, on offer).
Hopefully the above is of use :-)
*APOLOGIES My previous post had some important info stripped out. Please read this one instead*
If you are struggling to make NS-347 work with Windows 7, read on:
First use the Vista tip by Michael Foster (search for his posting on this page, dated 25th Jan 2007) to change LAN Manager authentication level.
You’ll probably be unable to browse the NAS folder name (share), so type the full path in to Windows Explorer e.g: \\192.168.1.100\Foldername
(Note instead of Foldername type the name of the folder you are trying to access)
When the Windows Security box pops up, for “User name” enter the address ONLY, e.g. \\192.168.1.100 and for “Password” enter the folder password.
Windows 7 seems quite finicky and sometimes when trying to re-browse a previously successful folder, logon can fail.
In this case try entering \guest\Foldername and password to get back in.
No doubt the cause is Windows 7 beefed up security model, which the NS-347 was not designed for.
Alternatively, option 3 suggested by Benjamin of plugging the NAS in to the USB port of a supported router is probably the easiest method. The O2 Broadband Box IV supports external USB devices in this way.
Lastly, this technique also works on the ATMT HD-363N NAS (bought in my local Maplin shop, on offer).
Hopefully the above is of use :-)
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